What do you want healers to do then? =/

Isnt this Sedy explain already? Healer suppose cant be kill by 1 person? so do the tank too, need at least 2 ppl to kill it. I think the problem is bf not hav so many ppl inside, only sometimes bf hav alot ppl to join (maybe coz bfp event)

Maybe you should look at yourself and see why you can't kill them. I've played with people who single-handedly kill healers with no problem. Of course they play certain classes, but still healers are not unkillable, especially if you teamwork well. Same thing goes to tankers, they are not invincible gods, you gotta learn how to kill them. And please don't tell me you want a tanker to be able to kill healer and vice versa. It will never happen because those 2 are not killing machines, they are meant to be supporters.

dude even u ask the other ppl that has ww or sin that good equips alr they cant still kill a prophet and atleast tank is easier to kill than healer lol

man how much u wrong, i use sin and can kill prophets alone and ecpecially if i have good teamwork in my team. to kill healer u need the right timing and skills and not just come and spam all what u have, learn how to use and how to kill then it wont be boring.

Dking is right.. i have killed healers alone too! maybe your gears not that good?

@bluegum and when since u join bf?? HAHAHAHA when??i dont see your any toons in bf

really whose prophet u killed?? maat prophet or random prophet who joining bf??hhahaha
did u killed lumio ranin vasilina maris karapuz tamaki prophet???bitch please GL killing good prophet solo/alone im not saying a noob prophet ok i know the random ppl who joining bf and
tell me whose prophet you killed alone give me name/s?? i guess just random prophet who joining bf u can kill solo lol
dont make me laugh u just a sin that has free wing hahayss

what are you running to escape to the healer. dont cry. next week I will not go to BF. You can rejoice. good luck to you. funny already read your complaint.

you have to gangbang them with like a whole team of ppl and most of the time that doesnt work... also they are almost impossible to stop at raising flags. In flag match and capture the flag you can have entire party hitting them to try and keep them from raising the flag and they still raise it.

it makes people on the other team afk becasuse they feel the match is already lost before it begins. which only compounds problems because then ppl are getting reported as afk in bf or they just dont go at all.

while on the subject of bf .. there are also people telling new comers not to come back to battlefield because they are useless because they are new or gear not max allstat.
everyone knows i trashtalk but this is beyond trashtalk. it makes people not feel welcome at battlefield or on game and it also looses more players to join battlefeild and if people dont feel welcome to play then they arent gonna donate or spend time on game as much. (then people complain because noone goes bf or is online *shakes head)


we were all new at one point in time and need to not banish ppl from trying to play the game before they even learn how to start.

and btw only certain classes with stats in gear can kill a healer with stats in gear if u dont have one those classes on your team you will prob loose unless you have a healer also.

When it comes to when i play now i can kill some with my sniper without even needing to food or trans. But here is a tip for you guys doing BF. EVEN GOOD PROPHETS can't protect themself from everything. I've noticed this a lot but NO ONE uses trans in BF unless they are vets and pros. Why don't people actually TRY that instead of QQing over classes?

Zombies stop DoTs

Niria 3rd skill allows HP damage to become MP damage

Night Lizards have a Poison attribute Stun skill.

Payaso have sleep AoE.

i could go on and on and on and on.

Point is this. if you KNOW how to play and your toon is stacked CORRECTLy you can kill prophets and saints. Or at least stall them.

If your team learns to FOCUS them you can easily take them down with 3 people with good gear (Not the ones that enter BF with 40k HP fresh off 84)

YES Prophets and Saints are hard to kill they are OP but they HAVE TO BE to an extent. Do you want to go and do a dungeon or raid world boss with a healer that dies if something touches it? No.

true noone wants to go dungeon and die becasue healer dies but pvp and pve are 2 different subjects all together.
there really isnt a good answer to this.

could raise every class dmg or hit or skills so ppl can kill in pvp and do more dmg in pve but healers dont die from bosses hahah...

its a vicious cycle that never ends.

becaues then other classes will complain about non healers too op.

also the trans card idea works in theory and on paper but in battlefield not so much. especially when the healer is using trans and stuff to not get silence stun pushed or flinched.

and btw healers and sorcs only class ive seen can avoid all that and still raise flag with 5 ppl hitting them.
ive tried all those card with a bunch diff clases and they dont have same effect as when a healer uses them.
mainly because other classes dont have the mp and healing capabilities.

The way the prophet's work. I'll just go ahead and share it here

Niria (Makes HP damage become MP damage)

Put down MP per second regen circle

Put down pillar circle that heals and prevents pulls/pushes

Put down red circle to prevent stuns.

Use zombie trans to prevent DoTs.

leaving them only vulenerable to poison skills. which rarely ANY class has and really only night lizard had stun in poison. Soooo there that's how they do it now how do you counter it?

And btw Niria skill makes you unable to flinch from normal attacks

they can do all that because they have the mp for it.. even if a wiz cast electric chains on a healer they usually still have enuff mp left to support all their circles and mana tent... other classes are by default very low on mp and cannont do this. if another class gets hit with elctric chains almost all mp is gone and a few hits will kill that class... with healers its a very different story they have mp left over and can regen and heal to start the process over in the mean time you are on cool down and cant really do anything about it.
now if they have a teamate hitting stunning pushing you as well game over. and after the healer raises the flag they just heal their teamate/s and go on to get next flag.

im always happy tho when i join bf and a healer is on my team ..hahah because there is almost no chance of loosing if its a good healer.

or maybe a simple solution would be to make trans cards unusable in bf like the hp mp pots thing... and make only certain bf trans cards that can be used. i know alot of ppl will be mad at this post but seriously other than changing alot of crap and chasing your own tail to find a solution over and over ... this might solve alot of complaints in bf easily.

i mean even in duels it is considered uncouth to use trans cards and pots by many people, so there may be a few people who dont mind this idea.

and it would even the playing ground a bit for alot of players/classes.

I don't have a problem with healers being hard to kill. I have said in the past that it's working as intended - they simply need to be solid to do their job properly in pve and pvp, a 2 hit healer is no good to anyone. You shouldn't expect to be able to solo a healer by simply bashing all your skills out on it unless you vastly outgear it or you get lucky or they fuck up.

Battlefields are not really designed for 1v1 - it's about teamwork. Might be difficult sometimes when you only have 2 on each team but that is why battlefields used to require more players to even start whereas here I made it require less due to our population - maybe not a good idea tbh.

Removing trans use from battlefields would indeed solve some of the problems but I think it would probably add more than it resolves. Trans are a massive part of the game so I wouldn't really want to restrict their use.

However, some trans are just overpowered on max level players with good gear. These trans skills and buffs were designed for retail when stats were so much lower than we have here. eg. Niria's MP shield is just ridiculous on casters and healers with the amount of MP they have now. I already fixed a bunch of them some time ago but some still need looking at.

are you for real, lmao??? ranin, maris, vasilina??? those except karapuz are laughable to me (I'm sorry if I offended you guys). There were far better prophets back in the day, and if I were t tell you their names, you would not even know judging by the way you talk about healers.

Calling BlueGum a free wing player is enough for me to infer that you are just some newbie with probably free wings.

Except karapuz, I and my friend killed those mentioned above single-handedly using non-winged-and-CI-gears sin when they were fully geared with CQ 85 and wings. That's enough to tell how good you are lmao I've seen every single class out there with the exception of healers and tankers, killed healer solo. Sharp Shooter may have some problems because their traps were nerfed though, but still.

If you are QQ-ing now, you’d have quit by now if you played in past bf percentage pots were allowed :P

Majority of best pkers are either retired or quit, along with best healers. The day when they played in pair, 1 dps and 1 healer, is long gone. I admit the ones you said above are considerably good, but they are far below the healers I used to face. So please go learn how to play before whining here.

Oh by the way, watch your language

hahaha really im calling bluegumthat has free wing??read read read please HAHAHAHA
and you old in game im not saying the past ok??? im saying today dont have in the past it will not come back
im saying here when theirs a healer on other side its like auto dunno if u understand it...or u just keep back in the past...
try to look forward man

thats what im talking about when theirs healer in 1 team its like auto useless to fight

thats why healer is used to be not in front they're always in back of raids...even in other games

yah even u use niria+zombie if your not a healer u can stand to their hit??sure no u will lose mp or rather die thats the only 2 things when u raising flag if your not healer..

Oh I certainly did read your comment, I've taken a screenshot as well. And you did say bluegum is a sin with free wings

Thats all i wanna say cause I know my stuff and I dont need to prove it to an ignorant yet narrow minded newbie. Shouldnt have wasted my time.

see u dont know who im telling that...so if u dont know that person just be quiet your just a old guy that dunno the newer ppl nowadays...i dont know if u still playing or not or just checking iris site to see new feeds

yeah its not design for 1v1 sometimes its 5v5 and prophet still can stand on that 5ppl while raising flag...
i know some ppl using lizard to stop it then other are hitting and still they can stand on that attk
just put circle the heal until enemy tired of attacking

Oh I'm still active btw, joined bf once in a while because you guys can't entertain me except for very few.

HAHAHAHHAA epic comments

if talking about FM, i think must better if the mechanical work like fp?? so when got hit will cancel the flagging. Idk if that will work or not lol.

do you think that is easy to play a healer. the circle is the protection of one type of damage. and how many have to use elixirs and other necessary items you do not know. you do not like it when a weak healing can not save you. but when you have a strong can resist it wildly razdrozhaet. although you can not even imagine how much it needs to do, so as you can see only his circle. learn how to play is recommended. if I have a stupid team, I can not win a bf.

do yourself a healer and try to survive.

Hi Bishy Mat.
And dont feed the stupid troll that cant kill a healer. >.>

do u think i dont know it?? its all about who hitting u if phy use phy circle or vise versa then turn to zombie easy flag for prophet
and about healing just stand still on your circle and heal

its almost like fp when u got hit the looting will stop... and its not only on dm or boa...u have damaging like 5k-10k per hit and healer heals 20k++ so even 3ppl hitting they still can survive anyway its just to annoying when theirs healer on bf its not fun...
nowadays no one megaing that good match close fight...now no one its like healer on other side ok we lose

and i dont need to try i dont want to annoy people who joining bf

try to use melee or sorc anyway u dont want to use your sorc in bf even it has horus cuz u got always bullied just hiding on your healer
try to use melee and got healer enemy tell me what u feel

wait what? xD i am laughable to you mat? thats a bit hurt xD but hey karapuz is not that much different than me or any other of the prophets who got mentioned, sure can kill us but can also kill karapuz, she is not immortal or something easy peasy with a team to squiz it

I do not pay as opposed to you, that all attack, pushed, stun me. you chose a character class to play, I chose a class too. treat nerves not to be annoyed

Imma have to interject and say Wot Woot stop this by far crazy senseless name slinging and insulting.

BlueGum donated like crazy for a lot of her stuff. And yeah i've seen her in BF a time or two. Also BlueGum uses sorc more than any other class. I don't even know i've seen her on a sin. I've seen her on tanker on Bury in BF and i've seen her SharpShooter.

Vasilina PRACTICED like crazy to get as good as she is. Healers are NOT gonna be 1hit KO machines at all. I'm sorry. Sin's are a good choice and i do know a FEW that can solo some healers. Here's the thing. They KNOW WHAT TO DO. Now imma ask you stop this before i'm forced to lock this thread. Am i clear?