because you can hover over the skills in the tree and see what they are, the debuff length, and the cooldown times... and for the skills that are the level 3 versions of what I have I can see that the cd are doubled yet the debuff effects are the same. It's literally all right there on the skill tree.

Spiral Jab, Accurate Lunge, Shadowstrike and Paralytic Strike cooldowns will be the same as previous job after the patch today. The rest will remain as they are.

Thank you Sedy, that is a big help. Totally happy with that

No probs

Hey Sedy, been trying out the new First aid in LI and DI and it's pretty ineffective now... Especially in PVP. Evasion as a form of defense is pretty weak in No Scrubs iris pvp and boss battles, Dagger class usually doesn't have much defense so that full heal really balanced a lot out. especially against magic, to which there is no cards or which to build eva against...

The main heal went from 56K for me to 7k... Sharlach insane's overpower does like 43k and I have 45k HP at the moment approx. with the new first adain im taken out of the fight to go on timeout to heal... Because it cancels if you git hit, for about 7 seconds to receive around 21k health best estimate. Hopefully in that time I don't get sucked back in, killed by mobs, get hit, by some random holy attack or god forbid another overpower X___X. Plus the range is so large I have to go far far away from healers to not die again since I no longer have the hp to survive another attack. And that's just Sharlach XD. Never-mind TLC bosses, LI, WGI, TOA, (shudders) and LiskH >_

(Double post for message clipped or something I dunno what I did lol. Pt2)

When it comes to PVP it creates even more problems... The previous scenarios were from bosses assuming I even get the chance to sit for 7 seconds flawlessly (the bosses must be stunned or something to let me get away without a second and totally fatal swipe lol). In PVP I almost never get the second heal after the intial... which effectively makes a 7k heal every three minutes...

I'm still building my SW, I don't have allstat +30 on every slot or a way to get them... yet XD. But before I felt that I still had something to offer to the parties with some of the debuffs and attacks. I think I found a fairly useful way to use SW even wiithout OP status but a lot of it relied on being able to sort of fend for myself without becoming a liability to the healers... I feel that because there are OP Adventures it may be looked at too harshly against those that aren't. Because if you aren't OP (and SW doesn't seem to work the same as ADV from what I have seen) you may be pretty SOL XD. Love to hear thoughts on this, and once again, thank you for listening