NO.

Haha can't just say no, say why~

as nice of an idea as that sounds. I say no to guild member v guild member PVP. and Guild v union of guild PVP. Why? it's just a way to rise to the top of that useless PVP ranking. "Oh look me and my guild mate went to that map, he let me kill him a few hundred times now i have the most kills and Chaos points in the game" you are opening up a VERY bad situation with that. I say good to the open free for all PVP as long as it's not guild member vs guild member of same guild/Union. Yes it might be fun then. Then guilds that have problems with each other, can just go there for a true guild war.

Read this a few times and I still don't quite understand it : o,
I said in the post you'd gain nothing from the PVP map & I don't see the problem with guild members being able to attack each other, they do it in BF so what's wrong with having a pvp map where they can also attack each other?

ah didn't see the gain nothing part, but then Kyle gotta ask yourself this: what's the point of going there? If there is no reward, why go for the risk? No one will touch a map that has nothing to gain. Like Resource mine. People over level in Shebuz that Resource gives little to no EXP. so a lot of people i know skip said map. No reward, no risk. Unless their is something to gain that map will see virtually no vistors, unless like you said in your post an event is going on. but even then, after the event the map is untouched. Now i honestly won't speak for everyone but i'll speak for me: If i see nothing to gain, i won't go there, Just a useless waste of space

it sounds similar to what sedy did in aion in tiamaranta's eye where pppl used a command to go there and farm Abyss points from mobs it would cool to have a map like that in iris but yeah if there are nothing to win or lose not many ppl will use it so maybe adding some mini bosses with some good loot or mobs giving bf points or something ?

how bout just make it a battle royale,, no pt, no friends, just u vs everyone,,

I find it rather sad that people wont do something just because they 'gain' nothing. Iris Online is a game.
PVP I find is fun and fun = gaining something.

Sadly it would just end up like BF, guilds helping each other.

If you don't gain anything from it, why go? Yeah that's sad, but hey it's the truth, and I know it's what most ppl think.
Lots of people don't even join BF's now, even WITH the battlefield buff, because they've already gotten enough bf points, and to be honest, 2 vs 2 is just boring a lot of the times. I miss the iris when battlefields would be completely full with people. So why would someone want to join a "pvp npc related map" with no rewards, no nothing?
This is like suggesting a map for people who are scared to lose CP in pvp. There's really no fun in it at all. And to be honest if I wanted to fight my own guild or union I'd just go to battlefield and ask them to join.

People complain to me all the time about them having nothing to do because they've gotten everything they can already.
They want a new dungeon, once they've gotten everything worth while in there, they're gonna complain again about having nothing to do.
Free for all pvp is harmless & it's sad people wont join coz they gain nothing. I don't get anything for being a GM and here I am.
CP is useless so why would people be scared to lose it? I don't understand that at all xD.

Free for all pvp is just meant to be fun, I know for one I'd join it, I can't join BF coz people would complain I'm misusing my GM powers, or if they randomly dc "GM kicked me coz I killed her"

hhmm then put ? on the name when inside like on the retail iris when inside pvp map so we wont know whos who.. lol in my guild whenever its bf,, we try our best to murder our own guildie haha,,

IKR. Cause we aint imbeciles like people out there who feeds their guildies just to win a match~

Now if people were to go i would suggest several things. One, do it like the retail use to do PVP maps. I remember my first time in CV in retail i had a PKer come after me and their name was ??? it hid names. Let that return to help calm down the guilds helping each other. Two, make it where it is true free for all parties can't be formed regardless unless it's a special event (AkA guild vs guild PVP for bragging rights of who's guild is better. Trust me i know two guilds and their unions that would kill for this) (Who knows maybe this way people can settle who gets the next boss spawn instead of massive aggro war or PK war over it hahaha i wish)

I would add some more but if i do then i'll get bitched at and moaned at for it... actually y'know what screw it i will add it. Titles work on a way to strip everyone of their title leaving them with no title upon entering unless it's a certain title just for that place, and lock it somehow this will get rid of "Oh but that's a winged player i can't beat that." then it comes down to skill alone.

The more i think about this the more i kinda like the idea but i'd choose a map other than circus i'd choose wood gardens honestly. The more i think about it and re read all this the more it sounds like No Scrubs Iris Online: Hunger Games edition

lol rejected u ass chase me like there is no tmr ....

I really like your ideas : ). Free for all, no parties, no names.
Would be nice if once someone joins the map, their title changes by default to one all players in the map will have, once they leave the map, their old one returns.

This, reminds me of the arena from Flyff...

There are games with PvP Free For All rooms and you don't gain anything it's just for practice and fun. To test new builds and new gears. It's a nice idea

There are games with PvP Free For All rooms and you don't gain anything it's just for practice and fun. To test new builds and new gears. It's a nice idea

Ragnarok Online has exactly this kind of pvp. No rewards, no gains. Just pure pvp fun. What's so wrong with that?

Chaos Points feed the pride of a player. not really useless. however, there are players who farm for it for the sake of having their names on the rankings (even though they don't deserve it). they farm in a way they use alts etc. etc. sad truth.

and there's this thinking that when you have low CP, you are noob. I haz low CP therefore I'm noob

this is actually a good idea. no raids, just party. the fact that you will be on a random map could actually lessen the possibility of feeding. but I think it'll be appropriate if we add points, otherwise nobody will use it. either chaos points or another pointing system that can be exchanged to items? or for rankings maybe?

If players want an "accomplishment" and yet the Gms don't want players to truly "gain" much from this why not add a special message or a kill counter that pops up in chat with "(players name) x number of kills" in a row to show who has the most. Like i said this is turning into the Hunger Games. Like i said from there on in there players can have bragging rights that alone should be fun aka "I killed x number before i got killed." The other thing is the GMs can regulate tournaments there (Hunger games) and give prizes for last man standing, most kills, best kill streak" etc etc gm boxes of course

I personally play a game where that if we PvP; either 1v1 or Guild v Guild you gain nothing but bragging rights.

It's quite fun and a lot of people actually just sit in a spot on the game and PvP all day.
(There is durability in the game so camping PvP actually makes them LOSE money instead of gain it, but yet they just sit there and PvP all day long.)
The game then every Saturday turns one of the maps into a Guild v Guild arena where any guild that paid the fee and registered before a set time can enter the map and just duke it out and at the end the guild with the most "points" gets a title that gives +10% experience until the next Guild v Guild fight.
^Most of the guilds that go to this are already high enough in levels/players that they don't really need it, and it doesn't give +10% to quest, just Mob killing.

I would find this addition quite fun, even if it did nothing to the game in gear/currency wise. Just for the simple fact people in Iris sit in Term and PvP all day anyway, and all this does to Term is increase the lag, YET again.
So why not move all the PvP to a new map, maybe on the BF servers so there is no Lag of the non PvP'ers.

This addition would be beneficial to everyone in the way that not only would it give people a place to practice for BF, practice their PvP tactics, duke it out between feuds...it also give people less lag in the game.

And I support it hundred %.

I like the idea of a New Ranking system for it.

Death Match rankings (not the BF version, but the one GM Kyle wants to implement).
-No Gain
-No way to find out who is who
-Party but no raid
-Teamwork
-Feud settling
-Less Lag in Term (and I think since Term and other maps are on the same server, the entire server all together).

Overall good idea Kyle.
c;

I like this idea :I
and I dont even like pvp xD;

IT'S A TRAP.
D:

No but really, it'd be something to dick around in.
I can see myself going to it, and wasting 1-2 hours just laughing my ass off because it's so funny watching all the little tiny toons running around xD

Agree with rejected, dont put IGN so ppl wont know each others

I am happy to see people liking this idea, like someone suggested like if you get kill streaks you could get an announcement saying like "So-&-so is on a killing streak" or if someone killed a GM "GM so-&-so has fallen by the hands of so-&-so"
I guess kinda like LoL has those announcement thingys.

everything is a trap D:

lol ya xD would also give all the bored people something random to do if they dont feel like farming or questing on other charas .w.

Low CP is the new cool =P

why not remove cp, kills and deaths as a whole? so weaker/lower level players can enter the maps for quests without being bullied for points.

Well, taking those away still won't stop people from going to those maps and pking. :3

Yeah, it just gives less incentive to go pk because there is no gain. But people will still go pk because we're all trolls on the inside.

pfft, it's because you are a big phat bully squiddy

Plus like that's how the PK maps are really. PVP map would be free for all where everyone can duel everyone. Can't do that in a PK map

we kinda need bullies in every games. as long as they are contained.

bullies = pk greedy peeps.

You do understand that if this goes through like Kyle is planning it's it's not gonna be guild versus guild right? it's gonna be FFA free for all no guild help you against the world friend and foe alike... unless another map is made JUST for Guild war pvp