Suggestions about Rogue / Shadow Walker Skils

Visceral Penetration, a Rogue skill that Increases [Physical Attack Power] by 287, and [Physical Critical Value] by 1000 and attack the target.
Visceral Penetration, a Ranger skill that Increases [Physical Attack Power] by 287 and and attack the target ignoring 75% of the target's [Physical Defense]


Vigorous Assault, a Shadow Walker skill that Increases [Physical Attack Power] by 271, and [Physical Critical Value] by 1000 and attack the target.
Canine Assault, an Adventurer skill that Increases [Physical Attack Power] by 271 and give an effect ignores 75% of the target's [Physical Defense]


How bout a remake on the Rogue skill Visceral Penetration?
How bout a remake on the Shadow Walker skill Vigorous Assault?

Making it ignore defense?
Level 1. ignoring 15% of the target's [Physical Defense]
Level 2. ignoring 25% of the target's [Physical Defense]
Level 3. ignoring 35% of the target's [Physical Defense]
Level 4. ignoring 45% of the target's [Physical Defense]

or

Making it a DOT?
Level 1. -600 hp/sec for 3secs
Level 2. -700 hp/sec for 3secs
Level 3. -800 hp/sec for 3secs
Level 4. -900 hp/sec for 3secs

or any better suggestion?


Why remake?
~ To Improve Sw's Skills
~ You got 100% crit skill you dont like it? with Peridot Wearing Cards, Medal, Gears its easy to get 100% crit even
higher, where will you get an ignore equipment?
~Hunter Skills got remade, why not shadow walkers too?

If you like ignore def why dont you make an advent?
~yes advents got 2 75% ignore skill and a -700 dot for 4secs[dmg type is pure,err i mean dmg dealt cant be reduce by def], i like shadow walkers more, so some adjustment would be such a blessing,

You got 3secs Silence, 2secs Stun, 2secs Immobile, 10secs Slow with ignore def SW would be so OP
~yes debuffs, thats why im suggesting a lower version of advent's ignore skill, advent got debuffs also

why keep comparing advent skills and sw skills? they should be somewhat different,
~im just comparing 2 skills, the CRIT vs 75% Ignore Def
~crit as ive said earlier can be improve with cards etc. while ignore cant be acquired from any items,
~ok lets compare different class too , Barbarian and Mercenary, Barbs got 3 DOTs while Merce got Ignore def, a barb can hit you 3 DOTs and also ignore your def with 1 skill while Merce can Ignore your def using all skills if the skill invoke, DOTs of Barb vs Ignore of Merce, close fight ? yes, with DOTs barb deals extra dmg we can say its also like ignoring the def since it hits the HP of the target
~and now compare SW [15kPDEF] and Advents[15kPDEF], SW crits vs Advent Ignore + DOT, close fight? definitely no, While SW keep on hitting Crits, Advent Keep on hitting DOT,Ignore = GG?


You got a skill called Savage Toenail that reduces target's all defense by 4000 right?
~Adventurers also got that skill, lets have some examples

example 1: Advent hit a Gladiator[20k pdef] with Savage Toenail
Gladiator now has 16k pdef
Advent hit Gladiator with Visceral Penetration [75% ignore def ]
The Gladiator's pdef while taking Visceral Penetration [75% ignore def ] would be
[16,000] - [16,000*.75] = 4000


example 2: SW hit a Gladiator[20k pdef] with Savage Toenail
Gladiator now has 16k pdef
SW hit Gladiator with Visceral Penetration [Physical Critical Value +1000]
The Gladiator's pdef while taking Visceral Penetration [Physical Critical Value +1000] would be
= 16,000


example 3: SW hit a Gladiator[20k pdef] with Savage Toenail
Gladiator now has 16k pdef
SW hit Gladiator with Visceral Penetration [45% ignore def ]
The Gladiator's pdef while taking Visceral Penetration [45% ignore def ] would be
[16,000] - [16,000*.45] = 8800





TY for reading,
KaitouKid :lol: