so what do you say about the updates now?

It's best to wait and see how the Champion fares after the next update, changes to HP/Stam on various armours, ITD fixes and anything else Sedy has up his sleeve =)

Here's the thing. Temps are easy and champs take work. Champs have less weaknesses to OP players because they eat reflect sandwiches. Temps need a lot better gear to deal with massive damage PVP than champs. +10k def buffs on only 40k def is nothing. But 150% reflect with a lv.1 shield hurts just as bad. That said, the main reason they fall behind temps is they are like Rozark, if you dont hit them they can't really do much

True, but I still think they need better skills added to them. ^^

Champions are underrated, if you know how to play them, they can be extremely effective : o

I wanted to go templar, but there are so many templars already and it kind of makes it plain and boring. So I'll just keep my champion and make another character as a Templar. ^^ But I love pvp.... and its too bad I can't pvp on my main because of how much money I spent on it. I was thinking of switching it to a templar but... Im not so sure.. I also like shadow walkers. But. I don't know. .-. I'll just train more as pve and see if I can tank the higher bosses at my MAXED gear(my gear isnt at its best) and if I can't I'll just go templar.

That reflect hurts in PVP, really hurts. But I guess Templars are for PVP, Champs for PVE

"Champions are more meant for PvE not PvP" , was the type of answer that i was looking for , but i wanted to get an overall picture ... thx for sharing your thoughs owo~

And I already complained about how Champions are so weak compared to Templars, but Champions are more meant for pve not pvp.

I'm a champion.

... i've also readed that Temps , ~can deal and take a lot of damage , then , if you look at it overall , templars are better than champs in everything? meaning that champions aren't viable :l ...

i guess it's because Templars have skills that give shield layers, which make them insanely hard to kill, whereas Champ skills give reflect. So if you're going to really tank, Templars were a better choice.