I would like to add another since Sedy working on new update

The CI healer gear, top and leggings, it gives less wisdom and heal than the WGI one. :X


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Hm , then maybe Saint and Prophert need to have different set's , coz prophert is enough op with the circles and if h can full hp just for 2 sec i don't see what we all other have to do . About saint's u have high heal then propherts like always but yeah we can stunn and sleep you . :X
Just tough~~

I'd rather have the all stat instead of cast XD

well you don't need cast xD

thanks sedy

You can still get 0 cast speed, but you need to make some sacrifices when choosing your cards. The CI set gives more than the WGI set when you check the set bonus. You can use 4 piece of CI and 1 piece of WGI and still get a good amount of heal/wisdom and cast speed.
we're not supposed to have 0 cast speed, that's why Sedy implemented the new armors like this. You lose like 15% cast speed which is 0.3sec and you gain more all stat. wisd, heal and tons of HP. To be honest I'd prefer all the other stats instead of the 0.3 cast speed as you have foods, potions and tarot to increase cast speed

So saint have to use casting tarot in BF while prophet can use 8/12% abs which helps alot in surviving?

But not all saints can afford foods.

I just don't wanna rely on the casting tarot much cos it doesn't really help alot in BF D;

@iixvii - You can get foods from screenshot event which is free to enter.

@Wadi - like i said "You can still get 0 cast speed, but you need to make some sacrifices when choosing your cards" Sages and priests are different classes with different ways of playing. Same as warlocks and magicians. Sages have 25% cast speed buff and priests dont.... well sages also have a 40% absor shield and priests dont... so what?

@Nikki i know what you mean, im healer too. And i also have a priest (not playing my sage now). The thing is, you have to make sacrifices to get cast speed. My cast speed on my priest is 0.3 (she has no tarot) and believe me from 0.3 to 0 cast speed the different can be irrelevant.

0,3s in pve maybe it's nothing in pvp it's difference. Well seems like saint is much more expensive class. Casting time tarot uhm spread is expensive unless you are really lucky to get from bag, food isn't expensive also?
Yeah Prophets and Saints are dfferent classes, I join bf alot and I can say that prophet is already much better.

I know what you mean Wadi. But see from a different point of view.

Prophets dont need to be good. They can just pop a circle and "turtle" up ad eternum till their attacker quits or gets killed by someone else. Prophets skills are designed for defense. On the other side, saints are designed for offense. Saints need to be good, really good. Your party can get away in btf with a crappy/average prophet but you cant get away with a crappy saint. To keep a party alive a saint needs to know what he's doing. Saint cant turtle up. Any person can play a prophet but not everybody can play a saint.

So yes, i agree with you, a saint is a more expensive class. To reach a point of "well geared" saints need more than prophets. But thats how the class is... that's why you can have battle saints and hardly a battle prophet :P

OMG so much to read already xD

@Happiny, of course I would want more stat too than getting -cast, but my stat would be useless if I can't heal myself quickly or another person. So I'm already really confused what should I do to my Saint LOL. Thinking of just quitting my saint hahaha!

Well, I guess we just need to find other ways to make a Saint OP xD

Uhm maybe CI set with casting, ToA set with stats? lol

Thank you so much for all your comments.


Sedy is doing some changes already so let's just stop this thingyy about Saints and Prophets on BFs etc.

I just know that Saints are Cuter than Prophets, and Prophets are Sexier than Saints. K!!!

@Wadi, so it's like 2 different gears for healers? xD

That would cause to much work I guess? xDD

I do not agree with Happiny.

Cast time is ridiculously important in pvp. It is the difference between getting out a life-saving heal between being silenced, or being caught by that silencing skill and then dying after that.

Plus, you say that I can use food and tarot to get 0 ct. Well, I own the ct tarot. I've tried using it. And tbh, I rather have 12% abs + ct, than more HP (which poofs away faster) and heal (which I can't use cos I'm dead from silencing). Plus, if you're talking about BF, once you die, you don't have a tarot anymore.

Oh, and if it's pve, I have no problem having longer ct. Because I'm not being silenced/pushed in the middle of my casting constantly

having 0.3/0.2 cast is tricky. because you also have to consider the lag. however, we can't have it all, prolly if Prophet has more advantage when it comes to casting, then Saint must have higher heals. so that, less QQ for Saints. yes? yes? yes?

faey fae is rightttt!

Finally from someone who actually go pk go bf and from someone who makes sense.

I agree when you say that cast speed is important and might be the difference between life or death. I didnt said it wasnt important. Your post seems very defensive. I said to look from other point of view, so we can understand why Sedy changed the stats. Sedy wanted us not to rely on 0 cast speed so much, and make PvP more challenging.

Sorry if I sounded defensive.

See, the thing is, part of the reason I like NS is the 0ct. I played priest in retail too. And well, even if I was geared by the standards there, I still didn't have the luxury of waiting for my heals to pop out. I was effectively limited to my 2 pathetic instant heals.

My main point if there is no 0 ct, is that it is a HUGE nerf to priests (not sure if sages will have this issue since they have that self buff). I would be happy to discuss further with Sedy on this, but he has not really given much comment on his reasons behind removing the ct.

Not to mention the damage from the new skills is so much higher, but in response healers are given gear that is not that useful? Seems kinda outta whack. I can't even change ring from that Tundro ring :/ I keep posting on this, because I hope I can at least change from 75 gear.