And yes, I get that you're hiding cos you don't want to burden your teammates T_T
Which I'm conflicted on since that's better than feeding points...........................

*cracks and pops knuckles* Okay... i said this kinda stuff before. I fully agree with the above statments. BUT lemme go through with a little something to blow things off my chest.

Battlefield: Don't freaking join if you are a feeder, don't have proper gear, or just one of those "I'm weak so i'll die better go flipping hide"

THERE IS EASILY ACQUIRABLE GEAR OUT THERE.

Trophy Vendor for 85 HAS GEAR, It's not the best gear but it's usable.
VonStien stuff: Usable.
CI Stuff: Usable. Hell i did BF with all stat IV full CI gear and actually won SEVERAL matches.

ToAI stuff: This is as good as CQ, You can buy it off people.

CQ: takes a while but gettable.

Bears gear: Usable.

GET YOUR GEAR FIRST. Ugh dont hide cause your weak. even weak people can stun and run and cause a distraction...

Let me make some sort of illustration. I am a newbie and I'm farming, at the same time notification appears that read "Death Match Level 85-85 Whould you like to Join? Starting in: bla bla bla" I hope to get strong members (people were not talking at this threat lol... bcz they will win easly). but instead I got a weak members, eventually I ran so there has a chance to win.

so the case is not talking about gear etc.
I remember again about notification, "Whould you like to Join?" not "you are strong enough to join?"

do'nt be naive

no new player who makes the character instantly become strong
who never hide when death match ? let me !!!!

I will bully you at PI

Tsk tsk tsk

Some people just don't understand the woes of being a newbie 85, or they just forget.

Not everyone has the means or the money to get decent gears that fast. Being 85 is just expensive, let's face it. 50m per armor piece is just too much for a newbie 85 and what more to a first time player who just got to 85. Farming for gears is also out of the question since a newbie 85 will not be able to do dungs like toai that quick, or if they can, they'll just die in the dungeon over and over which is a NO.

You're lucky if your guildies will give you free gears but most of the time, that is not always the case.

Why on earth do you join =.=

Are you seriously asking this question? People like Arz join bf's to farm bfp's. To be able to buy bf accs, mounts, titles, etc. Not everyone can afford to buy moolah items in a very short period of time.

GET YOUR GEAR FIRST. Ugh dont hide cause your weak. even weak people can stun and run and cause a distraction...

So you're suggesting they go kamikazee against OP players and just die over and over. If you're weak, there's just two things to do, hide or cling to a stronger player. But the latter is useless since they're the ones who'll get killed by the other team first.

Battlefield: Don't freaking join if you are a feeder, don't have proper gear, or just one of those "I'm weak so i'll die better go flipping hide"

Hello discrimination! This is just plain rubbish. BF is for everyone, not just for those people who have moolah items running around.

I find it extremely annoying when people join a match with the full intention of hiding and not participating. It's not against the rules, but still, kinda sucks.

Sucks when things don't go your way isn't it? I've been to bf for countless times and this happens alot. Especially in DM, like if there's someone in the team who can't put up a fight, your teammates will just tell you to go hide. This isn't a new thing really~

I've a couple of times with arz as a mate. when deathmatch he always run near portal to find a hiding spot haha
and I though he want use the bug, i have notice that he sit in the middle of portal but not ported, he was telling me "I need to died, portal cant port me" he is funny people, as a zeker act like assasin lol

but at the FM moment he is eager carry FM flag, as proud of carrying the flag, and you know he did't hide it just about easily killed lol. i have look at all the desire to win as new players lvl 85. he is clever

nice to be a friend with you arz

I want to Arz got the crown bf this week. Don`t listen to anyone, when someone don`t have staff and something else- it`s np. Op don`t become instantly.

Wooo. Arz The Tactician. Go Arz c:

When i was a noobie 85 I had full stat IV CI gear. i had mostly my acc and do you know WHY? cause i FARMED FOR MY GEAR BEFORE HITTING 85. I farmed BF 74 for six months to get my mount for 75. I farmed bf 84 for three months for my acc. It's called FREAKING WORK. Do you know what they call a player who joins a team, hides, camps out, does nothing? A feeder. Last i knew that kinda stuff wasn't allowed. so let's go through your exscuses "It asks do you want to join not if you are strong enough" You see the words "DEATH MATCH" what do you think that means? It means FIGHT. Death match is a match where players battle to the death. WHERE ON EARTH do you see "It's a match where players who don't think they can do anything just hide?" cause that's not a match on Iris. You join you help or you will start being reported. You join BF to freaking fight not to play coward and LEECH.

I'd like to point out a few people to you that i know have joined BF in the past, this goes past just me when i started...

There is a Sin playing named Iza, she no has Moolah items. she's not even fully stated. she's basic for a player. She joins DM knowing that OPs can kill her and STILL MANAGES TO GET A KILL.

RooRoo, RooRoo is a wizard with CQ gear yes but no Moolah wings or costume AND SHE CAN KILL MOST WINGED PLAYERS

Tokitozi i trained her myself. and toki can kill some of the best in BF i've seen in a long time.

Even on my alt, Mayl, who is a VERY ungeared wizard, I use to join with her and WIN at times.

Aiken. As much as i HATE him due to his trash talking he has NO MOOLAH gear and yet the champion can still play, still tries his best, still manages to kill and puts up a fight.

Do you need more? Point i'm making is if you want to join Fm to sneak steal flags cool. BoA to sneak kill tower great. but don't join DM if you intend to hide. AT LEAST TRY. Vanquishers have a nice little AoE silence that i know of. a few stuns. don't you think your team would LIKE THE HELP before you run off?

Is any of this getting through? I'm not telling you to be OP i'm telling you to stop being petty, selfish and a waste of space and freaking TRY. we ALL DIE in BF it's natural. I consider my assassin to be one of the best PVP oriented sins, and if not the best at least on of BFs most active, and i tried in 74 84 and 85. I did 74 without wings or a costume. 84 with only tear 4 wings. not full. no costume. 85 i did mostly with gear that was CI or worse.

Sigh. I get why people join. I get that newbies will have problems gearing up at 85. And I have noticed that his HP has been increasing, so I guess he is gearing up slowly.
Just think that it is something pretty boring to farm via sitting lol. I've played on newbie chars before too, and yeah I died a bunch, but it's super fun to ninja people haha.

Anyway~ not trying to discourage newbie from joining. Just hope that when you join, try doing some stuff~ go hide when you're leader, but otherwise why not test out stuff? Hiding is super duper boring lol.

Dear Admins~ please close this thread if you happen to read it, ty. Think there's not much point in it, wasn't thinking too clearly when I made it lol.

Case Closed \o/

Sure ok