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Umpity Umpity
posted on Monday, September 15 2014, 12:39 AM in General Chat
am i wrong? ..decreasing the amount of money per drop and not changing prices of other items like armor weap9on cards is actually hurting the economy...weapons enhancements now going for 2m? wtf.... plus side ppl lvl up faster and are now stuck at 85 with crap gear... +?
gettting chain quest done is almost impossible anymore ...noone wants to do it ...not to mention finding 100 friggin d.ore
now we have whiny asss merius's and tnts cause they full allstat bored with bf and reporting ppl cause they have no gear?
when the 85's joining bf are just there to learn and try bf...not cuase they gear is maxed out....
plz bring server rates back to normal
it costs 2m per enhance card but takes u days to accumulate that shit.
for one friggin card!
ugh...
just a rant goodnite

then u have lame asses like merius and tntnt reporting ppl for not helping or not having enough hp in battlefield...?
something need s to change s

ive donated alot on server never had prob with it till now... noone has fair chance to create for themselves their own guild dynasty etc...
its been minimalized into the higher gulds and what they produce is the market... u cant get 85 gear unless ur invited or buy it for insane prices anymore...
u cant get 85 accessories unless ur invited into the right pty...
u cant get ur chain ques gear untill u colledt so maany d.ores
and even if ur lucky enuff to get the bosses that dropp the stuff to give enhance cards ...well from normal play u wont have the money to decomp them
im done.,
night
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    Spunny Spunny
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 12:56 AM #Permalink
    Isn't 2m per enhance card the high class one? Why not use the normal one which is much cheaper?
    Either that or you can farm the high class cards, they do drop in maps like NF/CV... you definitely don't need more than a day per card lol.

    Er not sure what's going on with CQ, but I have seen multiple people in my guild complete the first IDQ stage if that's what you're referring to. 100 d ores are boring yeah, but still doable, just whether you wanna spend the time to do it.

    BF - yeah I understand that people want to try out. But there are certain minimum requirements to trying out. E.g. if you die in 1-2 hit (I've seen some physical user with like 30k HP in 85 BF), how do you try out? ahaha. I would say absolute minimum is to have enhanced gear (preferably L85) (with property!). Surely you yourself don't want people in L70 gear running around in L85 BF. It's frustrating for players on their team too, because it's a guaranteed loss if the teams are small.
    However, to have no gear/HP is not reportable. Reportable is if they give up and just sit in the base doing nothing (which is super annoying, especially in FM).
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 01:01 AM #Permalink
    ermac point is id didnt use to be this way... ppl could farm for few hours get money they needed to get few cards...
    now they are sutck with farming for many hours with diff chars to get same results
    ur dealing in fm im sure are good.... mine are soour tho my gear is prob bettter
    either way u look at it ... econony is shifting
    shifting in wrong direction
    iris will loose alot players

    cant use pots in bf now/? only bf eclussive pots? wtf? seriously whos deranged mind broughyt tthat one up merius?
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 01:05 AM #Permalink
    i have a potion that gives live to me ...but i cna only use it in feild...it doesnt work in bf....wtf?
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 01:06 AM #Permalink
    now im supposed to spend my bf points to get pots that work in bf? .... sounds like ka merius thing
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 01:13 AM #Permalink
    upcoming palyers cant get the gear the lvl 85s have .. what par\t of that dont u understatnd? if they can afford it then they still stuck with crap gear waiting for you to log off not play ...so htey can have fun in battlefield too
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 01:16 AM #Permalink
    overall point is ... only the stong survive bf... the tuffest...etc... noone with the economy can become as one with them
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 01:19 AM #Permalink
    all its created is a way for more ppl to exploit lower players to trade thier ores for lower prices....which make hte rich ..richeer
    and the poor a litle better equipped but not strong enuff to fight the ones who sold us this crap.,
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 01:20 AM #Permalink
    game
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    Ray Darkwolf Ray Darkwolf
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 02:28 AM #Permalink
    BF in 85 is filled with monsters, actually all even tiers of 74 and 84 are too due to campers. You can't expect to go in "learn" while not dying. These people you keep talking about, TnT and MeiruS all had their time of being the butt of all the bullying when they were still new in PvP/BF, and now they're much better cause they stayed and endured the field even when they were the easy targets. Now it's their "reign" time, so to speak -- until new PvPers come along and they step down.

    Older players are much more geared and experienced than newly levelled ones. It's the way of the server even back in the days. For finishing CQ or DOre farming, it is tedious -- but not as tedious before. Ores now drop from Bandits at PC/AS/PI and theres chances for you to even get Obsidian ores. As well as people sell these ores cheaper via moolah at 1:5 rates. When many of us did CQ it was 1:1 / 1:2.

    You're right in a way. the High Class cards are getting too expensive for the avg user. But again, you dont need to use high class. 50 of Low class (10 mil) works find for 1 piece. The stones you need? You farm for them. these cards shouldnt be any less. The only way you really need to spend money is if you are not farming/doing dailies.

    Again obviously the strong and tough survives BF. Hello? Why will weak people do LOL. And I find so many holes in your complaining because my newbie guildmates are doing well, as well as old player alts. I do not know what you are doing that you're very poor for some reason...but yeah. >_>

    Stats = Lisk drops it hella
    Cards = Mobs Drop tons
    Armors = CI gear is just as good as any if upped and its cheap as hella too
    Weapons = Loads in Stock if not, Nereus is free to take
    Wings? = *points at coupon* Cheap as hella now. XD

    And isnt that just economics. >_> People being able to afford pays for stuff, people who wants to earn, sells stuff. >_>


    But you are right in a way =3 With the large shift in economy and lack of gold in circulation (except for some people who hoard gold in their storages >_>), NPC prices needs to be a bit lower. Maybe. *shrug*
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    Sedy Admin Sedy
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 02:51 AM #Permalink
    Before the economy update, it was way too easy to get gold and that is why we have such ridiculously high prices on the server - because it was the norm, everyone sold stuff for stupid high prices. Whilst we had a high gold rate, items on vendors were never increased from the retail prices making things even worse. The economy update was made to try and remedy that. Less gold around and people should start dropping their prices. Items that were rare and commanded high prices couldn't even be put on the auction house because it has a limit on max-price so something had to be done. Many many players even reached the gold cap of their inventory and warehouse :/ I update a few prices nearly every update since that economy update, slowly putting prices back down as promised now that gold is less plentiful than back then.

    Those high-class enhancement cards are expensive because they were a cashshop item that sold for tears before and are not necessary to successfully enhance your items - they are a luxury item, not something needed by levelling players at all. Anyway, they will be put back to being sold for tears in the next update because I do agree that 2.5m is too much for a card but it was part of the economy update we have some months back to try and get rid of some of the gold stored up on the server. As Spunny says, they also drop from many dungeons - not that hard to get at all really.

    CQ quests are meant to be hard/time-consuming and are not for everyone. There is plenty of other armor around that is much easier to obtain and almost as good. Even Circus gear is good if you use the whole set for the all stat bonus and actually card/enhance it properly and it's really easy to get. It drops like flies around turds and you can probably get a full set of it within a week or so of daily runs if you're lucky and if you just can't be arsed to do the dungeon, buy it from other players, it's not even expensive. btw CQ will be sold on nsDB when the next update is live so donators can just buy it if they cba doing the quests.

    In my opinion, this game has never been better for new players. Several of the recent updates were focussed on new players, making life easier for them, but people can't just expect to get in the game and have everything right away and be up there with players that have been here for years - it's an mmo. It takes time and effort to get up there. We might just be a private server so people expect something different but we have been running since before global and plenty after it. I don't run this like the average private server - give everyone everything in a day kinda thing.

    We need some kind of ranked battlefield system where players get scored by their items/titles or whatever to make it a bit fairer but it's no easy task :(

    Do you think a new level 85 starter armor set that can be purchased with Mighty Trophies would help new players? It's something I have been considering since we have always had a full set of armors, accessories and weapons for level 75. Maybe something similar to the rock sets that drop on the high level maps or even the ToA Hard armor sets but without the set bonuses. It might be good for players that prefer to get right into battlefields instead of farming quests and dungeons for something to get started with.
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    Ecroier Ecroier
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 04:39 PM #Permalink
    Pots: Me and My sister pointed this one out. So let's start. Pots are simple. All classes could be god by abusing Niria, Water tent and the LOADS of MP pots in game. Go and look through the update topics i BELEIVE you will find even Sedy himself said at one point and time he didn't want this. he banned % pots a while ago before i even pointed out about % food. While we are on this topic this right here made it FAIR for lower levels. IE

    People like... Let's take Ray for example. Ray's HP can easily hit 100k. I've seen that myself like once. at 30% pot to him is what? 30k? More?

    what's a 30% pot to a lvl 85 with 75 gear armor?

    most i could muster was 60K without a lot of good stuff. doing stam power on my templar's armor set for 75. 30% of that is no where NEAR what 30% is to Ray.

    These new pots are NOT % based that means the higher gear gets the same heal the lower gear gets. And to me that's a better system.

    I don't like you putting my sister's name all over this thread. I will politely ask you to reframe from doing that. Thank you.

    Getting "reported" and being told "Please don't join till you get better gear" is two different things. Also being told to "hide so you don't die cause you are just a giant target" is something else as well. I've been told that myself.

    You think TnT or my sister started off at the top? Hell no. I betcha even Ray didn't.I bet you even the most PVP addicted player on this sever, matty, didn't either.

    And by the way these "Overpowereds" can die if you play smart, You are weak but you got a super strong person on your team. Play the bait and lead them to the strong players let them kill while the overpowered focus you. Weak or not no one can really play a ganked match and come out on top, unless they are godly good.

    Gear: Nereus is old news no one really kills him anymore. Free weapons for you right there.

    The bears, their armor is BETTER than the Ci set. i haven't seen the enraged brothers killed in months. grab your raid, kill one at a time. tada gear.

    CI is tough but that might be you trying to do IDQ. don't rush it and just do it normaly for the gear drops then do IDQ when you got the gear TO survive it.

    Play this game smarter not harder.

    Oh and wings/Costume/all stat VI. dude. this server is at an all time LOW as far as money goes. 5 diamonds = 1 moolah. go farm diamonds go farm go farm. Tears 350-400 tears per moolah. 100 mil per moolah. I mean this isn't THAT hard to farm (unless you are like me and just don't have the time.)

    Finally ont he PVP side. There is such a thing as use tranformation cards. Nirinia, Forest Lizard, Cave lizard, things that stun/silence. Pome for faster running. Whippa for inviciblity. Radon for sleep ecape. AND while i'm on that get the alchemy assistance skill. I bet if you make some injectors that will give you an edge to live too.

    This ended up WAY longer than i wanted it to...

    In short don't blame others for your weakeness. find a way to play smarter and who knows you might come out on top
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    Ecroier Ecroier
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 10:34 PM #Permalink
    THere is the starter 7 day BF armor. Is there anyway to make that stuff properly special enchanted to make it seem more usable for the 7 day duration? I mean not like that would hurt right? It goes away anyway. Other than that. I wanted to ask this a while back but it's off topic of this but what if after lvl 40 every map as a common armor set for that lvl every five to ten levels. and you can buy said common armor set from vendors in these maps. IE. Wind Basin have the common version scale armor set for heavy armor users for gold etc etc. I do like the mighty scrub trophy things for armor for 85. Think you could do some for shining trophies as well? just curious. I'd like to see a use for those other than replica rhinestone gear and of course the cloaks.
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    Sedy Admin Sedy
    replied on Monday, September 15 2014, 11:56 PM #Permalink
    I don't think we really need to worry too much about lower level armors - it's easy enough to get gear as you quest and levelup and it's not like decent gear is even needed for levelling anyway. My concern is once new players hit level 85 and want to do battlefields and dungeons more than anything. With new levellers it's unlikely they will have decent enough level 75 gear to get them through the dungeons to get the 85 gear because these days you don't spend so much time in the 70s - everyone rushes to get max level. I think I either need to make some new sets for trophies or perhaps make those rock sets drop more frequently.

    It's worth thinking about though - adding some armors to vendors in the maps.
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    Ecroier Ecroier
    replied on Tuesday, September 16 2014, 02:45 AM #Permalink
    I personally. and this is speaking personally, would like to see some lvl 80 sets. Just saying. the 75 CQ, and lisk armor is awesome stuff. But like... i'm not saying make sets BETTER than the CQ just make a set for 80 with a bit of different stats to give people a mix match up with the 75 CQ set for 80. This would also, if done right, allow slightly more powerful gear that MAYBE might help the quick leveler get their 85 gear and survive till they get it... just a thought
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    Ray Darkwolf Ray Darkwolf
    replied on Tuesday, September 16 2014, 05:06 AM #Permalink
    =P On my noob days I was bullied by Pandora's Geist, Kira, Suki, that zerk I cant remember the name...D...D.....something. GIble, Xea.. HAHAHAH XD They wanted to FF kill me every day in BF =P That experience. Totally unforgettable HAHAHAHAH

    Sigh.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Tuesday, September 16 2014, 01:45 PM #Permalink
    was trying to insinuate one person from next tbut merius and tnt are bulies running around wont buff their teamates and report them if their armor isnt pumping out high enough hp for thier demand. sucks i know to have weak teamates but doesnt suck when they on the other side either and everyone is trying to learn eos.
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    Ray Darkwolf Ray Darkwolf
    replied on Tuesday, September 16 2014, 02:52 PM #Permalink
    Oh? If thats the case then I shall talk to MeiruS about it if its true =)
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    Ecroier Ecroier
    replied on Tuesday, September 16 2014, 04:29 PM #Permalink
    I'll requote something from my previous post

    Getting "reported" and being told "Please don't join till you get better gear" is two different things. Also being told to "hide so you don't die cause you are just a giant target" is something else as well. I've been told that myself.

    ALso i want to re ask that you stop with my sister's name... thanks. Also it seems to be that this is a problem of, you can't win against them so report them and ban them so you don't have to deal with them. They farmed, they played in 74 and 84 Battlefield They learned their class before 85. And PERSONALLY if you are still learning a class in 85... something is kinda wrong there. Everyone has good days and bad days dude. I could say some stuff that would be kinda mean but i won't. Instead i'll say this. You want to kill them? Match them. Don't complain about the whys and hows. Play smarter, win. and then go about your day. Hit and run is always a good idea. just saying. I told you before how to plan to kill them. If you want to be the baby and cry about it more okay. But man up and think more on "How can i kill them if they keep playing like this?" and come up with a plan.Lead them away from team mates. Plan with YOUR team mates and gank them. I am willing to bet moolah that this whole "They report people if their HP isn't good" is a crock of crap.
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    prettywicked prettywicked
    replied on Sunday, September 21 2014, 04:39 PM #Permalink
    I'm kinda new to this game. lately I have been joining dm 85 mostly for a quest and for bf experience. I should have tried it before lvl 85 but thats neither here nor there. new still learning. anywho..recently I was kicked out. both players on my team claimed I had too low hp and next thing I know I'm being reported afk ( which I def wasn't) and boom I'm out. not cool. I understand everyone wants to win. I have noticed no one really works together to achieve that either. Just because I have lower hp and probably not as good gear is no reason to falsely report me as afk. Tnt was one of the players that did this as well as Nakagawa. It's just a game ppl...we all play for fun don't we? so your a stronger player so what...at some point I will be too. just sayin. I'll keep joining bf..maybe instead of being shitty to new players give them a little guidance. Everyone was a noob at some point. :)
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    Ray Darkwolf Ray Darkwolf
    replied on Sunday, September 21 2014, 05:05 PM #Permalink
    And this was not because of you being "AFK" ? Mmm we have a case then. Hopefully Sedy sees this =)
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    prettywicked prettywicked
    replied on Sunday, September 21 2014, 05:17 PM #Permalink
    Nope not afk at all. If I knew then how to do a screen shot I would have. tnt said hello to me and I responded hi back lol.
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    Sedy Admin Sedy
    replied on Sunday, September 21 2014, 05:39 PM #Permalink
    Yeh that's not cool. The AFK reporting function is there to kick AFK players, not to be abused by people that think they are above somebody else and think they have the right to abuse the system. It's stated quite clearly in the server rules that it's not to be abused like that.
    I can't do anything about it this time because you don't have any screenshot but promise me that if they (or anyone else for that matter) do it again, you will take a screenshot and send it to me.
    We don't have pages and pages of rules here so the few rules we do have should be respected people.
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    prettywicked prettywicked
    replied on Sunday, September 21 2014, 05:47 PM #Permalink
    Will do, Thanks :)
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