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moonyou moonyou
posted on Wednesday, October 30 2019, 07:40 AM in General Chat
Greetings,

As a battlefield/pk lover I would like to request to bring back the "All Dispel Potion" and make it available again to BF shop

You may thing that this potion is OP because it removes all of your debuffs with just one click and the cooldown is not that high but in reality its not OP as it looks like. Why?

Most of the classes have complete lockdown skill combos to prevent the enemy from escaping without the dispel all potion it'll be easy to kill and that's not fun at all, having dispel pot in your hands can be your way to win over someone who has higher gears or better gears that you it's just on how you execute or how you play with it.

You may say that even "OTHER GAMES" does not have this kind of OP potion but that's what makes this potion cool different games different mechanics that's how it is.

Dispel all potion is already part of our reflexes whenever we are doing PK/Battlefield removing this will completely remove the balance of PVP

Example:
Assasin
Imagine this character is doing its combo on you it has alot of stuns and skill that could immobalize you imagine you not having "Dispel pot" all of it's debuff is applied to you and you couldn't do anything once this character aims on you its over for you there's no chance of escaping at all

Vanq
Due to its high duration of stuns and high duration of silence its gonna be hard not to have dispel pot on you when this char aims you and yes you can use lizard trans? and what ever trans? but heyy your trans should be reserved for something better against this class like "Nirenia" you need immunity to damage instead of stun immunity so dispel pot would be a game changer and your way to escape this monster

Those are just some of examples that we need the dispel pot alot there still other classes that gives complete lockdown when they aim you

Dispel pot is OP? It's not what you think it is


P.S Your most active battlefield player in the server
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    moonyou moonyou
    replied on Wednesday, October 30 2019, 07:42 AM #Permalink
    Would be better if you are to remove the Dispel pot from Gold shop so ppl would come to do battlefield sometimes :o
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    Too Much Alts Too Much Alts
    replied on Wednesday, October 30 2019, 09:13 AM #Permalink
    No because most of the people join bf are only 1 guild nowadays and sometimes other players don’t join the next bf because of how bad they play and its a waste of the bf dispel pot, Even tho 1m gold for 1 dispel pot is kinda debatable to buy or not and some of the players don’t have that much gold. Should improve the gold economy so ppl can buy a crapton of those dispel pots ;)
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    Ray Darkwolf Ray Darkwolf
    replied on Thursday, October 31 2019, 11:56 AM #Permalink
    APPROOOOVE Thing is Dispel pots are also consumable, and the cooldown is pretty high already. By the time you use it, most players have also targeted you with new skills lol.
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    Bagheera Bagheera
    replied on Thursday, October 31 2019, 12:34 PM #Permalink
    Yep better to remove dispels in gold shop.
    To make it “special” - you must get a reputation. So, no rep no dispels
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    motor motor
    replied on Thursday, October 31 2019, 01:01 PM #Permalink
    How about lower all debuffs to 1 second to make it funny XD
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    Sengkii Sengkii
    replied on Friday, November 01 2019, 12:35 AM #Permalink
    Dispel potion is the only things that worth to exchange with Battlefield points, I mean if Dispel Pot is removed, there is nothing much to spend with Battlefield point, except for those for who are new in game.
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    シエリ シエリ
    replied on Sunday, November 03 2019, 10:01 AM #Permalink
    yeahh!!! remove the "ALL DISPEL POT" Its too OP, replace them with 3 other dispell pots and buff the current 3 dispel pots from alchemist. instead limit them up to 3 debuff how bout make them unlimit. Buff healer dispell skills.
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    D king D king
    replied on Wednesday, November 06 2019, 10:13 AM #Permalink
    Yeah the dispel pot is realy important in this game, as someone who plays pvp for years it became something you must have specially when playing classes that do not have high defences and are easy to lock down.
    Also the dispel pot that can be bought for gold is not worth it, 1m gold for 1 pot is too much of a value specially these days when gold is hard to get.
    Atleast with bf dispel pot everyone could get it and its more usefull that way, not talking about the fact that they had pretty high cooldown, and can save you only if used at the right timing, so they are for sure NOT op.
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    Aleksandra Aleksandra
    replied on Friday, November 08 2019, 08:19 AM #Permalink
    I am not agree to back dispells for bf points. Spending gold on pots will move economics of game. Will force donate for lazy players who like pk and sell moolah to get gold for buying pots.
    Also i think will be good to make lisk resetable and not make reset cards as drop. Make it only for gold too. So players will farm lisk and buy resets. As long stats so rare drop now, but still will make people go there.
    Also i think new GTH weapon needed to add in quest 100m gold in requirement. Not a lot, but still will make people needed to get and spend those gold.

    Thanks for reading what in my Mind.
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    Bandersnatch Bandersnatch
    replied on Friday, November 08 2019, 08:28 AM #Permalink
    Aleksandra wrote:

    Im not agree to back dispells for bf points. Spending gold on pots will move economics of game. Will force donate for lazy players who like pk and sell dispellsfor gold.
    Also i think will be good to make lisk resettable and not make reset cards as drop. Make it only for gold too. So players will farm lisk and buy resets. As long stats so rare drop now, but still will make people go there.
    Also i think new GTH weapon needed to add in quest 100m gold. Not a lot, but still will make people needed to getand spend those gold.

    Thanks for reading what in my Mind.


    This topic is about dispel pot only, make your own topic for your thought about GT weapon and Lisk.
    How you think lazy players dont donate if dispel pots appear in BF shop? Still can donate and buy BF point chest 10 moolah each then come to buy dispel pots.
    How spending gold can move economics in game?
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    moonyou moonyou
    replied on Friday, November 08 2019, 12:01 PM #Permalink
    I see people who disagree on bringing it back are those people whom I don't see on BF it makes your argument weak
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    Sedy Admin Sedy
    replied on Saturday, November 23 2019, 12:59 AM #Permalink
    I don't know guys, I'm still not convinced on returning it. Personally, I feel it's OP having a potion available that can completely remove all debuffs on your character, without any thought as to what you are removing like you need to do with the normal Dispel Physical, Magic and Poison potions, and with such a short cooldown of 15s too. I don't recall playing any other game that has such a thing. Even player skills that remove all debuffs like Mass Dispel are usually very high up in the skill tree and have long cooldowns if they exist at all, and are nearly always healer/support type class skills. I know some of you say well that makes it unique to Iris, but being unique doesn't necessary mean it's a good thing, quite often the opposite. It's not in other games for good reasons.

    If I were to return this potion to the vendor, and it's a big IF, I would want to make changes to it, including increasing the cooldown to force you to think about when you use it and to give classes that rely on their skill debuffs a chance to actually make use of them, and I would also increase the BFP cost.
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    Ray Darkwolf Ray Darkwolf
    replied on Saturday, November 23 2019, 08:17 AM #Permalink
    :D yeah but not all games also have stuns immos and silence and paralysis in most of the skill sets you have with roughly 3-10 seconds of cooldown Sedy.

    Like it gives a small time to walk, but its easily done away with too cause of the stackability of skills. Idk, gives people incentive to even go BF in the first place cause its a potion usable for PvP and PvE as well since by design, all dungeons have stacking dot debuffs that are killing people too HAHAHAH and even with that pot, we're still able to die a lot sooo idk.

    I find it necessary but yeh >3
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    Too Much Alts Too Much Alts
    replied on Friday, February 21 2020, 04:13 PM #Permalink
    Sedy wrote:

    I don't know guys, I'm still not convinced on returning it. Personally, I feel it's OP having a potion available that can completely remove all debuffs on your character, without any thought as to what you are removing like you need to do with the normal Dispel Physical, Magic and Poison potions, and with such a short cooldown of 15s too. I don't recall playing any other game that has such a thing. Even player skills that remove all debuffs like Mass Dispel are usually very high up in the skill tree and have long cooldowns if they exist at all, and are nearly always healer/support type class skills. I know some of you say well that makes it unique to Iris, but being unique doesn't necessary mean it's a good thing, quite often the opposite. It's not in other games for good reasons.

    If I were to return this potion to the vendor, and it's a big IF, I would want to make changes to it, including increasing the cooldown to force you to think about when you use it and to give classes that rely on their skill debuffs a chance to actually make use of them, and I would also increase the BFP cost.


    I am here to change my comment last time, but dispel needs to be available on the bfp shop again, because like the others said the timer you set the debuffs at are long and having that instead of the one from the gold shop is more usable than the one on the gold shop, sure u can make the cooldown long or don't change or make it expensive for bfp either way is fine for everyone but what you really need to check is the injectors those are the cancer in the bf because they just prolong their deaths even tho ppl can argue with this sentence but really having the dispel is way more important than the injector even with full pvp gear and they still use that injector to prolong the battle and its easy to craft that item needs some changing also thats the only thing to spend on when doing battlefields unless newbies do pvp as well.
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    Tsaritsa Tsaritsa
    replied on Sunday, March 15 2020, 10:17 AM #Permalink
    pls im very poor
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