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Umpity Umpity
posted on Saturday, September 16 2017, 04:46 PM in Game Suggestions
hi this will be like random fact:
except will be random rants:
(for those that might remember)
this post will be added to at different times with different ideas and rants with no intended structure.


we need something to allow pvp to be better.

winged winged wiz, sniper takes 10-20 hit to kill winged statd melee sitting on ground not using skills more like 30 to kill tank.
winged statd melee take 1-2 maybe 3 hit to kill ranged players tanks take little more but thats to be expected.

some argue well u have shield.. well shield lasts 1-2 hit max if u use it up till cd its just die die die.

some argue well you have range well not really we all know range doesnt matter with imobilize,stun,charge,mount rune.. it is impossible to keep melee away from you unless u just run nonstop then add in factor all they need is 1 hit to stun 2 hit dead.

some argue can use dispell and injectors... well yes you can but melee doesnt have to but if they do they still win so easy. ranged players MUST use these or it is dead 2 hit and can burn through hundreds in a day which makes it really not fun farming all day.

some argue well u can use bf gear or stuffs like eva. well yes you can but then your character is no good pve and it costs insane $ to get decent gear and noone wants to spend zillions dollars to get 2 sets gear 2 sets wing allstats etc. and noone wants to change them out constantly. it already takes most ppl playing daily a year or two to get decent gear unless they rich. even if you are rich it takes way too much money to equip each char with 2 sets gear 2 sets wing 2 sets allsatats 2 relic 2 weapon etc etc etc. i have spent so much money on this game since its inception it is embarrasing to admit and i still cant play most of the game or am locked down to the gear i bought and so much of it is just stiing wasted.

i propose a buy back system where you can sell back your bought relics mounts, wings, cards, character wearing cards, anything in game etc for the exact amount u purchased them for from the game to be able to try different items if you have lvl 85 bf gear you should be able to sell it back to bf vendor for bf points back (same price paid) to put toward new gears title etc.
its sad to think ive deleted more great gear and cards and relic and junk than most players will ever get.

tanks have to use 2 relic 2 sword 2 shield 2 accessories etc etc etc this is getting crazy.

why not combine all the wings stats into one wing so ppl dont have to buy so many wings then if they decide to try eva can do so or if they decide to change char they dont need to buy more damn wing.
i dont thinnk anyone will complain about that wings will still sell about same rate. maybe even increase.

there is really only 2 things to do on game idq and pvp has been this way for years now new players cannot go to higher lvl dungeons because they gear is too weak ive been playing since server began and have always been statd and still cannot get legendary crap couldnt get pty for those dungeons in past and now nobody wants to do them and nobody wants to do them 600 times to get a damn relic for everyone in party can we maybe put older legendary stuffs up in moolah shop? it just isnt worth running the older dungeons 600 times and trying to get pty.

now the new dungeons are like the old dungeons were hard to get pty for it and still nobody likes to go the older hard dungeons....errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr which means the players that donate and cant get pty still trying to play catch up to get old legendary crap and will be way behind getting new stuffs it is loose loose so why try new dungeons?

pvp is main stay of this game its what keeps most vets playing. but it is severely neglected. i havent seen a pvp match with more than 8 players in years. it is just way too unbalanced.
too hard to get bf gear just to have to stat it out then switch it out when doing pve most of the stats on bf gear just make no sense its like someone worked hard on it just so noone will use it on purpose. the defense is roughly the same as any other pve sets but has no attack ? no crit? nothing really useful except protection and even then you need full set with relic and stuff for the protection to be usefull in pvp.

most ppl have to dual client some ppl 3 client just to get enough ppl for dungeons boss etc.
i understand that dual client takes mad skills and is great but wouldnt it be nice to be able to play just one character and learn to be pro at it again? maybe just be able to breath and relax and not worry about switching screens and junk. dual client in dungeons is truly an art but stressful and sad and really hard to do in higher lvl dungeons. slowly it is becoming the norm to dual client and it is sad.

i suggest making loot system where everyone in pty gets the drop recipes,quest item,pots,etc except for the epic gears those items will be given to highest roll.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Saturday, September 16 2017, 05:03 PM #Permalink
    for end game there is nothing to do on this game except pvp and it is neglected and horribly unbalanced. most of the game is unplayable even to donator and allstatd players i have been only doing idq and pvp for like 4 years. and from the looks of it it is all i iwll be doing for another 4 years. just log in collect tear do idq play couple bf match till i get tired of seeing my statd char die in 2 hits get mad log out.
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    shining shining
    replied on Tuesday, September 19 2017, 08:02 AM #Permalink
    good story :)

    random fact : pay to win is not always win

    if sedy will sell legendary items theirs no need to play this game again becuz you don't need to farm do dgn everyday. This game is not all about pvp that why you need farm everyday even you're in end game already have legendary items still it wont stop you cuz you need to help your friends/party "if you have some" to get their own legendary items that's dungeon exist in every game.
    party is so easy to get if you have "friends" "be friendly" "good player" "well geared" you can easily join other ppl's party
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    Ur Ur
    replied on Tuesday, September 19 2017, 05:08 PM #Permalink
    still cannot get legendary crap couldnt get pty for those dungeons in past and now nobody wants to do them and nobody wants to do them 600 times to get a damn relic for everyone in party can we maybe put older legendary stuffs up in moolah shop? it just isnt worth running the older dungeons 600 times and trying to get pty.


    The main purpose of those "legendary crap" is for you to farm for them and play this game. Putting them on moolah shop would defeat that purpose. Do really want that "pay-to-win" printed on your forehead?

    Here's a tip for you if you want to get legendary items too: create your own party. OR atleast find a decent tank, and a healer. Because DPS are EVERYWHERE especially sorcs and wizs. Create an agreement that each of u will farm one legendary item until u complete it. like you will roll for each other, your odds on winning the roll on a party of 6 would increase by 3/6. But here's the catch, you three will have to play every damn day, spam dungeons every damn day LIKE WE ALL DO. It will take a while until u finish of course, more than 100 days maybe. but after that, each of u would get 1 legendary item.

    The thing is, you have to be friendly to be able do this. and FYI, you don't need legendary "crap" to enter high lvl dungeons.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 20 2017, 12:30 AM #Permalink
    Ur wrote:

    still cannot get legendary crap couldnt get pty for those dungeons in past and now nobody wants to do them and nobody wants to do them 600 times to get a damn relic for everyone in party can we maybe put older legendary stuffs up in moolah shop? it just isnt worth running the older dungeons 600 times and trying to get pty.


    The main purpose of those "legendary crap" is for you to farm for them and play this game. Putting them on moolah shop would defeat that purpose. Do really want that "pay-to-win" printed on your forehead?

    Here's a tip for you if you want to get legendary items too: create your own party. OR atleast find a decent tank, and a healer. Because DPS are EVERYWHERE especially sorcs and wizs. Create an agreement that each of u will farm one legendary item until u complete it. like you will roll for each other, your odds on winning the roll on a party of 6 would increase by 3/6. But here's the catch, you three will have to play every damn day, spam dungeons every damn day LIKE WE ALL DO. It will take a while until u finish of course, more than 100 days maybe. but after that, each of u would get 1 legendary item.

    The thing is, you have to be friendly to be able do this. and FYI, you don't need legendary "crap" to enter high lvl dungeons.




    in theory this works but reality is that noone wants to even do the old legendary quests. ive tried making pty for it it works for a while till someone gets their access then they stop going ..or ppl say nah its too boring to go 600 times or people get mad becuase someone gets 3 rolls in a row.
    you dont see ppl that already have legendary items doing the quest anymore at all but they still play.

    also i dont know if you notice but noone plays this game late night my time.
    also there arent alot of new players here to begin with and the ones that are dont have tthe gears to do even the old legendary quests let alone the new higher lvl dungeons. most ppl on game are veteran players that have many alt and dont really want the legendary stuffs becuase they already have it on their main and dont want to run the dungeons that many times again to get them for their alts.
    the people that play this game are mostly veteran players and they mostly do 2 things idq (just to get moolah) and pvp.
    after idq is done most only do pvp or sit afk. if the idq quests didnt give moolah it might give ppl more incentive to do the higher lvl dungeons but hey its easy just farm moolah with idq then go pvp or sit afk collecting tear. (if there were no moolah given for idq nobody would even bother doing that except a few times to get ppl their 3 part quest for gear)
    it takes a raid to do most of the world bosses yet there are never enough ppl to even form a raid playing 95% of the time.
    at any given time there are only around 2 pages of players on the game from 8pm-around 3am and most of those are dual or triple cliented so factor in there is only about 10-20 active players during those hours. also pvp is nonexistent at those hours.

    and during the day most ppl are dual/triple cliented with alts afk selling stuff and doing pvp. look on whos online see what they doing lol 90% are sitting in terminus afk the ones playing are doing bf or idq or leveling their low lvl alts.

    and given at time of the day look at the whos online page and see that like 75-80% of the players at any given time do not meet lvl requirement or have the gears to even play the higher dungeons ... a good number of them cant even do idq yet.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 20 2017, 12:44 AM #Permalink
    the good world bosses are already dead and rarely get seen by ppl that play 8pm-8am est .. i guesss its just as well there is never enough ppl on during this time to form a proper raid to kill those bosses anyway.
    most ppl have to dual client just to get enough ppl to run idq.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 20 2017, 12:50 AM #Permalink
    shining wrote:

    good story :)

    random fact : pay to win is not always win

    if sedy will sell legendary items theirs no need to play this game again becuz you don't need to farm do dgn everyday. This game is not all about pvp that why you need farm everyday even you're in end game already have legendary items still it wont stop you cuz you need to help your friends/party "if you have some" to get their own legendary items that's dungeon exist in every game.
    party is so easy to get if you have "friends" "be friendly" "good player" "well geared" you can easily join other ppl's party


    So going by this logic then the people that already have those legendary stuffs no longer play right?
    Also if they did play doesnt it make it unfair to those who truly cannot get those legendary stuff?
    in an ideal world yes everyone has a chance to be able to get those item.. but in reality only a few ppl can.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 20 2017, 01:03 AM #Permalink
    good story :)

    random fact : pay to win is not always win



    This is VERY true i dont see a reason to donate anymore when ppl that do not donate can get the same gears cards i get for free.

    I guess the moral of the story to all the new players is dont worry about donating to play the game you dont need to, because even if you do you still will not be able to play the new dungeons can only do the old dungeons ..and the other players that dont donate will have the same gear you do in a few months anyway.

    But doesnt someone needs to donate to help keep the lights turned on?
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 20 2017, 01:22 AM #Permalink
    Donators are dumbasses on this game i guess. we help pay to keep server running and non donator get it all free and if they in a good guild at right time of day they can get more than a donator : legendarys, world bosses, higher lvl dungeons, great gears. Then they will laugh at you for donating tho you help keep them up.

    *kicks myself in the ass
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 20 2017, 01:28 AM #Permalink
    I propose making one day on server where ppl cannot dual/triple client so we can really see how many players are actually playing the game.

    I'd really like to know.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 20 2017, 01:35 AM #Permalink
    I think the same way free moolah in game is untradable there should be items in moolah shop not buyable except with donated moolah i mean seriously what advantage do donators have anymore? why donate? what incentive is there?

    but then again doing this would make free moolah system pointless as well i guess.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 20 2017, 01:52 AM #Permalink
    just tried to take ss of whos online screen in game so i can post just how many players are online which class what lvl etc so ppl that play during busy hours can see it is IMPOSSIBLE to get raid for bosses or get pty for higher lvl dungeons.

    but the screenshot just shows loading screen like this.
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    MomoJjang MomoJjang
    replied on Thursday, September 21 2017, 07:35 AM #Permalink
    It's just that, there's no much players in the game. Same players are online with their alts. It's like only 15-20 players are on it. New players are coming like 1 to 5 per day but won't stay much cause of the feeling of being left out and of course, some maps are deserted.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Thursday, September 21 2017, 08:09 PM #Permalink
    MomoJjang wrote:

    It's just that, there's no much players in the game. Same players are online with their alts. It's like only 15-20 players are on it. New players are coming like 1 to 5 per day but won't stay much cause of the feeling of being left out and of course, some maps are deserted.


    yes ive tried recruiting new ppl to game but they leave soon after.
    the stuff on game is just way too much work to get then if u decide you dont like it you stuck with a bunch of stuffs.
    a new player can come to game save for 4 months to get tear to get relic then bam they find out they got wrong one.

    a person can build a few character to try and see which ones they like best save for relic then bam they dont like this char anymore and cant give relic to another char or have to save up for 4 months again to get new one.
    a person can save up or donate to get wing to realize they have wrong one or want to change char then all sudden have to get new wing.
    changing class is an epic feat in itself which should be free of charge at an npc.
    or free class change scroll you can farm or something because you can work your ass off to build a strong character then bam it get nerfed and you wasted 4 years and 600$ and want to change class to the new poplular class but dotn want to waste another 4 years 600$

    in general noone likes to grind it is unpleasant.. but this game takes grinding to a whole new lvl and makes getting just basic gears insanely unpleasant, great gear takes long to get then is either untradable or by the time you get it its outdated.
    it is like layers upon layers of making stuff hard to get.
    gotta farm bf for 2 years to get bf gear then farm another 2 year to get the reputation to use it then farm alot to get the assist skill to make the card to put in the gear then have to do another assist skill to enhnace it raising assist skill is a 2 year process itself with the recipe drop rate.
    then when u get decent gear you realize that only a few ppl on game have way better gear that only those few can seem to get pty to go to.
    then when u get your class lvl up you realize you dont have enough sp to get all the skills for your class then have to farm another year of quests to get the extra sp which still wont give you enough sp to get all your skills.


    person can go to bf for a year straight to save up to get armor or acccesssories then realize i didnt really need that i should have gotten this instead 1 year of bf down the drain gear is untradable even to that persons own account. just decomp a year worth of bf junks

    the server during "busy hours" does not have enough ppl online to do raids or hard dungeons.
    been playing since game began have never done catacombs dungeon, only been in raid to kill frigid 1 time, namazu 1 time, been to gti 4 times, been to wonderland 4 times,been to von insane bout 8 times, been to dmp 1 time, been to liski 4 times, never been in raid to kill excavator, never done cletus, been in raid for monoxia 2 times, untill recently when sedy lower mob boss duneons requirements i still had not gone to gti, and had only been to toai 2 times.
    and i consider myself priveleged lol.. 90% of ppl on this game havent even done those at all.
    90% of game is lvling up then farming idq gear, then pvp or farm money to buy lvl 100 gear because you cant go to those dugneons.. thats it once you get lvl 100 gear done pvp and farm only.
    the maps for lvling up are deserted because they arent utilized. they are only there for nostaligia.
    if it werent for the portals to dungeons i doubt anyone would even visit any of the maps outside of terminus. might as well make exit from dungeon to terminus instead of the dungeons map.
    on the rare ocasion you get to go lvl 100 dungeon boss etc you still may not get loot.
    which i think is insane. everyone should get a copy of the garbage loot that drops. only the person that wins roll get epic items.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Thursday, September 21 2017, 08:29 PM #Permalink
    i understand the need to make things hard to get but honestly there just arent enough ppl on the game to justify it. most of the game is unreachable to everyone except a few and those few will play the game regardless whether it becomes easier to obtain stuff..new players will not stay in game if they have no hope of ever getting stuffs and many dont have the patience to grind out the huge numbers of stuffs needed to get them.
    its almost like the game doesnt want to be played except by a few.

    at what point does making stuff hard to get make the game not fun to play? i think this game is getting to that point.
    there is no point in having new dungeons gears etc if noone is there to play it.
    sometimes ppl dont want to have to grind themselves into insanity to get crappy stuff that is outdated by the time they get it.
    sometimes ppl just want to enjoy the game have fun and get rewarded for the effort they put into it.

    where is the fun? where is the love?.. it sometimes seems this game is punishing its players for trying to play.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Thursday, September 21 2017, 08:45 PM #Permalink
    Im not trying to be mean or disrespectful i say these things because this is a game i care about... and over the years ive watched most of the players here become a sort of dysfunctional family lol
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Wednesday, September 27 2017, 10:18 AM #Permalink
    A lot of words and zero brains.
    U really think Sedy will do all that u writing here?
    This game is not his hobby. This game is his job. He working and do money.
    He try to do game better. How? He complements the gameplay with new updates. Do new dungerous. Do new gears. Do new quests.
    And what we see? Dissatisfied man who dont care about project financing want only to get all bonuses in game for free in few month.
    Say me pls the games where u see such a rapid development of the character, i really wanna play in this shits games.
    This is ONLINE GAME, my friend, and an integral part of online games - a long and protracted pumping of his character. This is the meaning of the game.
    If you want everything, at once and for free - you should play something else.
    ~
    What can I say about change wings and chars.

    Your opinion clearly shows that you haven't read the game updates, and have not entered the game for a long time.
    (small preface) Last time I played in 2012-2013, I remember that days in game. I go away coz I have no guild, no friends, nothing that would keep me in the game except for gameplay. I took high lvl and go away coz all I could do was reach it. And ~4 month ago I came back, find guild, friends. Honestly, I already forgot how to play something else.
    And after my comeback I read all updates, all news.
    Now I know, that I can up my wings, and I dont need to pay for it if i dont want coz many players sell Moolahs in game for gold/tears/cards etc.
    Also I know, that for 100 Moolah I can choise new wing's look. All this Moolah I can buy by gold/cards/tears in game.
    ALSO I know that I can choise new character's job or race by 200 Moolah THAT I WILL BUY IN GAME FOR TEARS/GOLD/CARDS.
    And now say me pls, where u find a problem?
    If u cant donate - stop crying like kid and buy Moolah from another players, or better dont play in this game.
    And yes,(i cant say about it), if u play on char only coz it's better than others - online games is not ur games. (U can do ur OP char, u can prove to everyone that your char is undervalued, that he is still strong, despite the fixes, but sorry, all that u can is crying on site).
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 27 2017, 07:32 PM #Permalink
    >Veno wrote:

    A lot of words and zero brains.
    U really think Sedy will do all that u writing here?
    This game is not his hobby. This game is his job. He working and do money.
    He try to do game better. How? He complements the gameplay with new updates. Do new dungerous. Do new gears. Do new quests.
    And what we see? Dissatisfied man who dont care about project financing want only to get all bonuses in game for free in few month.
    Say me pls the games where u see such a rapid development of the character, i really wanna play in this shits games.
    This is ONLINE GAME, my friend, and an integral part of online games - a long and protracted pumping of his character. This is the meaning of the game.
    If you want everything, at once and for free - you should play something else.
    ~
    What can I say about change wings and chars.

    Your opinion clearly shows that you haven't read the game updates, and have not entered the game for a long time.
    (small preface) Last time I played in 2012-2013, I remember that days in game. I go away coz I have no guild, no friends, nothing that would keep me in the game except for gameplay. I took high lvl and go away coz all I could do was reach it. And ~4 month ago I came back, find guild, friends. Honestly, I already forgot how to play something else.
    And after my comeback I read all updates, all news.
    Now I know, that I can up my wings, and I dont need to pay for it if i dont want coz many players sell Moolahs in game for gold/tears/cards etc.
    Also I know, that for 100 Moolah I can choise new wing's look. All this Moolah I can buy by gold/cards/tears in game.
    ALSO I know that I can choise new character's job or race by 200 Moolah THAT I WILL BUY IN GAME FOR TEARS/GOLD/CARDS.
    And now say me pls, where u find a problem?
    If u cant donate - stop crying like kid and buy Moolah from another players, or better dont play in this game.
    And yes,(i cant say about it), if u play on char only coz it's better than others - online games is not ur games. (U can do ur OP char, u can prove to everyone that your char is undervalued, that he is still strong, despite the fixes, but sorry, all that u can is crying on site).


    I donate regularly to this game you gimp.. which is why im writing these things ive been donating since game began. i dont want shit free but i also want things to be obtainable which they arent.
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Wednesday, September 27 2017, 08:02 PM #Permalink
    Umpity wrote:

    >Veno wrote:

    A lot of words and zero brains.
    U really think Sedy will do all that u writing here?
    This game is not his hobby. This game is his job. He working and do money.
    He try to do game better. How? He complements the gameplay with new updates. Do new dungerous. Do new gears. Do new quests.
    And what we see? Dissatisfied man who dont care about project financing want only to get all bonuses in game for free in few month.
    Say me pls the games where u see such a rapid development of the character, i really wanna play in this shits games.
    This is ONLINE GAME, my friend, and an integral part of online games - a long and protracted pumping of his character. This is the meaning of the game.
    If you want everything, at once and for free - you should play something else.
    ~
    What can I say about change wings and chars.

    Your opinion clearly shows that you haven't read the game updates, and have not entered the game for a long time.
    (small preface) Last time I played in 2012-2013, I remember that days in game. I go away coz I have no guild, no friends, nothing that would keep me in the game except for gameplay. I took high lvl and go away coz all I could do was reach it. And ~4 month ago I came back, find guild, friends. Honestly, I already forgot how to play something else.
    And after my comeback I read all updates, all news.
    Now I know, that I can up my wings, and I dont need to pay for it if i dont want coz many players sell Moolahs in game for gold/tears/cards etc.
    Also I know, that for 100 Moolah I can choise new wing's look. All this Moolah I can buy by gold/cards/tears in game.
    ALSO I know that I can choise new character's job or race by 200 Moolah THAT I WILL BUY IN GAME FOR TEARS/GOLD/CARDS.
    And now say me pls, where u find a problem?
    If u cant donate - stop crying like kid and buy Moolah from another players, or better dont play in this game.
    And yes,(i cant say about it), if u play on char only coz it's better than others - online games is not ur games. (U can do ur OP char, u can prove to everyone that your char is undervalued, that he is still strong, despite the fixes, but sorry, all that u can is crying on site).


    I donate regularly to this game you gimp.. which is why im writing these things ive been donating since game began. i dont want shit free but i also want things to be obtainable which they arent.


    So why u crying? LOL
    Dont like game - go away. Nobody dont cares about ur shit opinion, afk killer.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 27 2017, 08:26 PM #Permalink
    should make injectors available in bf vendor just like dispells.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Wednesday, September 27 2017, 08:26 PM #Permalink
    >Veno wrote:

    Umpity wrote:

    >Veno wrote:

    A lot of words and zero brains.
    U really think Sedy will do all that u writing here?
    This game is not his hobby. This game is his job. He working and do money.
    He try to do game better. How? He complements the gameplay with new updates. Do new dungerous. Do new gears. Do new quests.
    And what we see? Dissatisfied man who dont care about project financing want only to get all bonuses in game for free in few month.
    Say me pls the games where u see such a rapid development of the character, i really wanna play in this shits games.
    This is ONLINE GAME, my friend, and an integral part of online games - a long and protracted pumping of his character. This is the meaning of the game.
    If you want everything, at once and for free - you should play something else.
    ~
    What can I say about change wings and chars.

    Your opinion clearly shows that you haven't read the game updates, and have not entered the game for a long time.
    (small preface) Last time I played in 2012-2013, I remember that days in game. I go away coz I have no guild, no friends, nothing that would keep me in the game except for gameplay. I took high lvl and go away coz all I could do was reach it. And ~4 month ago I came back, find guild, friends. Honestly, I already forgot how to play something else.
    And after my comeback I read all updates, all news.
    Now I know, that I can up my wings, and I dont need to pay for it if i dont want coz many players sell Moolahs in game for gold/tears/cards etc.
    Also I know, that for 100 Moolah I can choise new wing's look. All this Moolah I can buy by gold/cards/tears in game.
    ALSO I know that I can choise new character's job or race by 200 Moolah THAT I WILL BUY IN GAME FOR TEARS/GOLD/CARDS.
    And now say me pls, where u find a problem?
    If u cant donate - stop crying like kid and buy Moolah from another players, or better dont play in this game.
    And yes,(i cant say about it), if u play on char only coz it's better than others - online games is not ur games. (U can do ur OP char, u can prove to everyone that your char is undervalued, that he is still strong, despite the fixes, but sorry, all that u can is crying on site).


    I donate regularly to this game you gimp.. which is why im writing these things ive been donating since game began. i dont want shit free but i also want things to be obtainable which they arent.


    So why u crying? LOL
    Dont like game - go away. Nobody dont cares about ur shit opinion, afk killer.


    chump
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Thursday, September 28 2017, 12:27 PM #Permalink
    Nice answer, man with down syndrome
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 12:20 AM #Permalink
    >Veno wrote:

    Nice answer, man with down syndrome


    yo momma
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    Mythos GM Mythos
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 12:35 PM #Permalink
    Please let's be nice here. No reason to go out for blood and attack other players. Do that and i'll lock this thread. (try me)

    I understand you're upset over how you beleive a lot of things on the server isn't "accessable" to everyone...

    I'm sorry you think that way, but obviously that's not the case. I'll bring up a few points. There are people who have done things for so long in this game that when it comes down to it, they are pros. IE. people duo running IDQ and doing it in 15 minutes with only two players, I've seen then and no i won't give names and one of thos two doesn't use All stat 6 at all to push that out of your mind of "Oh well donator"

    Lisk I use to take a FULL RAID to complete long ago. now some can run it with just a simple party

    And obviously more than just "One guild" has the legendary items from Wonderland, GTI and ToAI. these things were worked for by people who saw fit to work their ass off instead of complaining.

    why should injectors that make you negate quite a lot of damage be now sold in a vendor? Against the idea personally as it shouldn't happen.

    "only pay to win gets anywhere"

    I know a wizard on the server who farmed their CQ gear, farmed their all stat V, farmed their acc before ever donating a dime and they ripped apart most of the BF comp as well as were doing bosses and dungeons without dying without using donator items... so sorry that's not true.

    BF gear isn't meant to be god gear for PVP, i know a few players have openly totld you this, right now the lvl 100 set is ACTUALLY the best gear for temp/champ. Ask me how and i'll prove this to you. But before that and the rest of the sets right now fall into this cat, but they are meant to be alternatives to armor and their price for points is there so they encourage you to go get the other sets as it may take less time. that's the entire point of the pricing. Otherwise it's novelty.

    What else have i missed?
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 04:00 PM #Permalink
    i
    Mythos wrote:

    Please let's be nice here. No reason to go out for blood and attack other players. Do that and i'll lock this thread. (try me)

    I understand you're upset over how you beleive a lot of things on the server isn't "accessable" to everyone...

    I'm sorry you think that way, but obviously that's not the case. I'll bring up a few points. There are people who have done things for so long in this game that when it comes down to it, they are pros. IE. people duo running IDQ and doing it in 15 minutes with only two players, I've seen then and no i won't give names and one of thos two doesn't use All stat 6 at all to push that out of your mind of "Oh well donator"

    Lisk I use to take a FULL RAID to complete long ago. now some can run it with just a simple party

    And obviously more than just "One guild" has the legendary items from Wonderland, GTI and ToAI. these things were worked for by people who saw fit to work their ass off instead of complaining.

    why should injectors that make you negate quite a lot of damage be now sold in a vendor? Against the idea personally as it shouldn't happen.

    "only pay to win gets anywhere"

    I know a wizard on the server who farmed their CQ gear, farmed their all stat V, farmed their acc before ever donating a dime and they ripped apart most of the BF comp as well as were doing bosses and dungeons without dying without using donator items... so sorry that's not true.

    BF gear isn't meant to be god gear for PVP, i know a few players have openly totld you this, right now the lvl 100 set is ACTUALLY the best gear for temp/champ. Ask me how and i'll prove this to you. But before that and the rest of the sets right now fall into this cat, but they are meant to be alternatives to armor and their price for points is there so they encourage you to go get the other sets as it may take less time. that's the entire point of the pricing. Otherwise it's novelty.

    What else have i missed?



    i agree with you but disagree at same time Mythos.

    a year or two ago this was the case actually up till just recently this was the case.
    however every time i have logged in for the past 3 months there has never been enough people online to do raids for lvl 100 bosses.
    there arent enough people to go to lvl 100 dungeons.
    one or two party will run the dungeons then done for the day.
    most of the whos online page shows that most ppl are dual cliented and most of the online people are afk in terminus.
    except at peak server hours there is never enough ppl to do anything other than idq or maybe toai (and most ppl have to dual client).

    why should injectors be sold same as dispells? for the same reason dispells are sold.
    if you are a rdps in bf you can burn through 100 or more injectors a day.. the recipes for injectors are gotten from bf only after certain prerequsites are met ie: level, rep, etc.
    then factor in you have to farm nonstop to keep up with the demand for them.
    if you do not use injectors you die in couple hits most melee users dont need them if at all so most melee user dont need to farm them just seems fair idk.. just an idea

    and yes there is more than one person with legendary but it has always been just those few ppl that have them. and with the current population it is next to impossible to get them unless you are in with those few ppl to deny this is just ludicrous most of the new dungeons world bosses and stuff are not reachable to 80% of iris.

    and most of the things like assist skill recipes etc have only getting harder to use and get.
    yes you can save up bf points to get bf gear and access but have to have reputation now to use them.
    recipes, gears, everything is getting layered with obsufucation to make it harder to get this or to take longer to do that.
    and if the whole purpose for bf gear stats is to dissuade you from using them and get different sets like you said then why the heck even have them? and why the heck are they so hard to get? why arent they tradable at least to your own account?
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 04:06 PM #Permalink
    any new people i get to join server and play leave in few weeks.. they level up excited then they see it is lots more work on top of the work they already put in to lvl then they realize its just lots more unpleasant grinding and obsfucation.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 04:11 PM #Permalink
    there is no ok im good to go now got decent gears i can enjoy the game and do bf or dungeons.. it is a constant cry of "can someone help me" "can you make this for me".
    i heard somone tell a new player other day that was asking if they will go to bf teh other person told them no you cant do bf unless u have played for years or you donate like crazy and guess what that person never went (but its true).
    people are asking for pty for dungeons that people have to tell them id give up on that because they will prob not be able to get pty for it (they tell them just buy it from auction if you need it)
    then you end up with veteran players that suck in new dungeons because they have never been able to go to harder dungeons.
    ill say again almost everyone on game just does idq bf farm and afk.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 04:22 PM #Permalink
    catacombs is another great example of a dungeon that is not possible to do.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 04:25 PM #Permalink
    suggestion: maybe we should put up stats page for all dungeons and world bosses like the vortex,hoe,sm page
    so we can see exactly who does what on game.
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 05:07 PM #Permalink
    Mythos wrote:

    Please let's be nice here. No reason to go out for blood and attack other players. Do that and i'll lock this thread. (try me)

    I understand you're upset over how you beleive a lot of things on the server isn't "accessable" to everyone...

    I'm sorry you think that way, but obviously that's not the case. I'll bring up a few points. There are people who have done things for so long in this game that when it comes down to it, they are pros. IE. people duo running IDQ and doing it in 15 minutes with only two players, I've seen then and no i won't give names and one of thos two doesn't use All stat 6 at all to push that out of your mind of "Oh well donator"

    Lisk I use to take a FULL RAID to complete long ago. now some can run it with just a simple party

    And obviously more than just "One guild" has the legendary items from Wonderland, GTI and ToAI. these things were worked for by people who saw fit to work their ass off instead of complaining.

    why should injectors that make you negate quite a lot of damage be now sold in a vendor? Against the idea personally as it shouldn't happen.

    "only pay to win gets anywhere"

    I know a wizard on the server who farmed their CQ gear, farmed their all stat V, farmed their acc before ever donating a dime and they ripped apart most of the BF comp as well as were doing bosses and dungeons without dying without using donator items... so sorry that's not true.

    BF gear isn't meant to be god gear for PVP, i know a few players have openly totld you this, right now the lvl 100 set is ACTUALLY the best gear for temp/champ. Ask me how and i'll prove this to you. But before that and the rest of the sets right now fall into this cat, but they are meant to be alternatives to armor and their price for points is there so they encourage you to go get the other sets as it may take less time. that's the entire point of the pricing. Otherwise it's novelty.

    What else have i missed?


    I try to be polite will all players, but this person offends Sedy, game masters and whole game.
    He allows himself this, even without really understanding it.
    Sorry but i cant just close my eyes and overlook.
    He is one of those people who do not really do anything, they just say.
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 05:09 PM #Permalink
    Umpity wrote:

    >Veno wrote:

    Nice answer, man with down syndrome


    yo momma


    It's a pity that your mother feeds worms already in the grave. But stop.... She does not see what an idiot her son is. Maybe her death was for the better? Think about it.
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 05:14 PM #Permalink
    Umpity wrote:

    i
    Mythos wrote:

    Please let's be nice here. No reason to go out for blood and attack other players. Do that and i'll lock this thread. (try me)

    I understand you're upset over how you beleive a lot of things on the server isn't "accessable" to everyone...

    I'm sorry you think that way, but obviously that's not the case. I'll bring up a few points. There are people who have done things for so long in this game that when it comes down to it, they are pros. IE. people duo running IDQ and doing it in 15 minutes with only two players, I've seen then and no i won't give names and one of thos two doesn't use All stat 6 at all to push that out of your mind of "Oh well donator"

    Lisk I use to take a FULL RAID to complete long ago. now some can run it with just a simple party

    And obviously more than just "One guild" has the legendary items from Wonderland, GTI and ToAI. these things were worked for by people who saw fit to work their ass off instead of complaining.

    why should injectors that make you negate quite a lot of damage be now sold in a vendor? Against the idea personally as it shouldn't happen.

    "only pay to win gets anywhere"

    I know a wizard on the server who farmed their CQ gear, farmed their all stat V, farmed their acc before ever donating a dime and they ripped apart most of the BF comp as well as were doing bosses and dungeons without dying without using donator items... so sorry that's not true.

    BF gear isn't meant to be god gear for PVP, i know a few players have openly totld you this, right now the lvl 100 set is ACTUALLY the best gear for temp/champ. Ask me how and i'll prove this to you. But before that and the rest of the sets right now fall into this cat, but they are meant to be alternatives to armor and their price for points is there so they encourage you to go get the other sets as it may take less time. that's the entire point of the pricing. Otherwise it's novelty.

    What else have i missed?



    i agree with you but disagree at same time Mythos.

    a year or two ago this was the case actually up till just recently this was the case.
    however every time i have logged in for the past 3 months there has never been enough people online to do raids for lvl 100 bosses.
    there arent enough people to go to lvl 100 dungeons.
    one or two party will run the dungeons then done for the day.
    most of the whos online page shows that most ppl are dual cliented and most of the online people are afk in terminus.
    except at peak server hours there is never enough ppl to do anything other than idq or maybe toai (and most ppl have to dual client).

    why should injectors be sold same as dispells? for the same reason dispells are sold.
    if you are a rdps in bf you can burn through 100 or more injectors a day.. the recipes for injectors are gotten from bf only after certain prerequsites are met ie: level, rep, etc.
    then factor in you have to farm nonstop to keep up with the demand for them.
    if you do not use injectors you die in couple hits most melee users dont need them if at all so most melee user dont need to farm them just seems fair idk.. just an idea

    and yes there is more than one person with legendary but it has always been just those few ppl that have them. and with the current population it is next to impossible to get them unless you are in with those few ppl to deny this is just ludicrous most of the new dungeons world bosses and stuff are not reachable to 80% of iris.

    and most of the things like assist skill recipes etc have only getting harder to use and get.
    yes you can save up bf points to get bf gear and access but have to have reputation now to use them.
    recipes, gears, everything is getting layered with obsufucation to make it harder to get this or to take longer to do that.
    and if the whole purpose for bf gear stats is to dissuade you from using them and get different sets like you said then why the heck even have them? and why the heck are they so hard to get? why arent they tradable at least to your own account?


    Everyday do aidq with my guild. Von, Won, Gti, Toai. I still not ready for Dmp, but my guild also do it 5 times in a row.
    Yesterday we have raid on Excava, killed it in 8 mins. Full raid, and some players wanna join too but it was no place.
    U still think there is no players on server? xD
    Maybe u have no friends to take u on raids and dng, that's why u blame everyone around?
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 05:56 PM #Permalink
    veno you started with the whole insults thing.. i was simply stating facts and frustrations about the game so people will take notice which unless im wrong is perfectly fine that is what GAME SUGGESTIONS etc if for in this forum.
    i have a right to be upset because i do donate very much to keep this server going so people that do not have the money to donate and contribute can play for free (like yourself).
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 06:00 PM #Permalink
    also saying your guild goes to these duneons is not indicative of the majority of this server.
    lucky you i guess.
    but for the majority of the server they do not have the people or people geared well enough to go.
    even during this servers busiest hours there is only a few ppl going to the harder dungeons.
    factor out those and what you are left with is the majority of the server not able to go.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 06:02 PM #Permalink
    if u read my posts then u will see i even posted way up the thread there that i meant no disprespect and was not trying to be mean im just putting this out there because i care about this game and i DO donate because i dont want to see it abandoned like so many other mmorp.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 06:13 PM #Permalink
    another suggestion i have is to make a gear set thats stats or attributes change depending on the class wearing it..
    for example dungeon X drops duneon X gears all teh gears are the same except when a healer equips it it gives healer stats when a tank equip it it gives tank stats.
    this would make it easier for ppl that want to change class (not to have to collect new gears cards) or try new things to not have to change gears so much and would lessen the different stuff needed to collect for different characters.
    this could also work for wings and many other things.
    perhaps on the gears make a setting you can tick which determines which attributes it holds for example.
    healer has gear from dungeon X but wants to try gear that wiz/sorc usualy use they can tick wich attribute to use so they can use wiz/sorc attack during farm or bf etc. then can switch attributes back to healer when needed.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 06:18 PM #Permalink
    Umpity wrote:

    another suggestion i have is to make a gear set thats stats or attributes change depending on the class wearing it..
    for example dungeon X drops duneon X gears all teh gears are the same except when a healer equips it it gives healer stats when a tank equip it it gives tank stats.
    this would make it easier for ppl that want to change class (not to have to collect new gears cards) or try new things to not have to change gears so much and would lessen the different stuff needed to collect for different characters.
    this could also work for wings and many other things.
    perhaps on the gears make a setting you can tick which determines which attributes it holds for example.
    healer has gear from dungeon X but wants to try gear that wiz/sorc usualy use they can tick wich attribute to use so they can use wiz/sorc attack during farm or bf etc. then can switch attributes back to healer when needed.


    snipers could switch between attack for dungeons pve .. and eva for bf
    this would eliminate the ened to collect so many darn gears and different types for pve,pvp eva etc etc.

    and less headache i think and overhead for the game and GM's
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 06:21 PM #Permalink
    If u raise the topic only coz newbies cant find party to dng - it also was.
    If player start play, he won't donate in few days (but sometimes any ppl do it). He will try to find guild, but he will be ignored or someone will take him to newbies guild. Yes, it's always like that. Idk why ppl on this server cant answer on questions. I always do it, coz i can.
    Yes, this newbie will up 85+lvl in week, but what next? How to find party? (Especially in aidq).
    Shoo, what can i say. First of all player need good gear. For example he can buy it from another players. Next will be cards/costume. Also can buy for gold or find.
    Yes it will be hard, it will be long, but if newbie will do it - he will go idq first, then aidq, he will find friends etc. This is NORMAL for game.
    I dont see problem in this. U r.
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 06:24 PM #Permalink
    If u raise the topic coz u cant find party in idq/aidq - idk how to help u. In this time nobody doing dng, all rest. Someone coimng from school, someone - from working. All r tired. There is no time on dng. Especially if we talking about old players. Most coming in game only for talking with old friends.

    And u can decide it, but not like that. Just GO and FIND players who still dont hate u, take them in aidq and DO quests.
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    Umpity Umpity
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 06:31 PM #Permalink
    >Veno wrote:

    If u raise the topic only coz newbies cant find party to dng - it also was.
    If player start play, he won't donate in few days (but sometimes any ppl do it). He will try to find guild, but he will be ignored or someone will take him to newbies guild. Yes, it's always like that. Idk why ppl on this server cant answer on questions. I always do it, coz i can.
    Yes, this newbie will up 85+lvl in week, but what next? How to find party? (Especially in aidq).
    Shoo, what can i say. First of all player need good gear. For example he can buy it from another players. Next will be cards/costume. Also can buy for gold or find.
    Yes it will be hard, it will be long, but if newbie will do it - he will go idq first, then aidq, he will find friends etc. This is NORMAL for game.
    I dont see problem in this. U r.



    what you are not understanding is that even with the good gear only a few ppl get to do those dungeons. i have 3 or 4 allstatd winged lvl 100 characters.. been playing since this game was in beta from retail .. its not about gears or being new ..there just isnt enough ppl to do them and the new players that come dont stay because the difficulty and time and grind that it takes to get the gears. and yes the new players are filled with questions and they get ignored because it would take you years to explain it all to a new player and they dont want to read on forums.
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    >Veno >Veno
    replied on Friday, September 29 2017, 06:32 PM #Permalink
    Umpity wrote:

    another suggestion i have is to make a gear set thats stats or attributes change depending on the class wearing it..
    for example dungeon X drops duneon X gears all teh gears are the same except when a healer equips it it gives healer stats when a tank equip it it gives tank stats.
    this would make it easier for ppl that want to change class (not to have to collect new gears cards) or try new things to not have to change gears so much and would lessen the different stuff needed to collect for different characters.
    this could also work for wings and many other things.
    perhaps on the gears make a setting you can tick which determines which attributes it holds for example.
    healer has gear from dungeon X but wants to try gear that wiz/sorc usualy use they can tick wich attribute to use so they can use wiz/sorc attack during farm or bf etc. then can switch attributes back to healer when needed.


    Doing new dungerous is hard work, it takes time. Especially if u want dngs for all classes with gears.
    Sedy cant do it in few secs.
    Drops depends of ur lucky. If u r lucky one - u will fast take op gears (i mean dmp). I know some players who don't have drop in dmp for their class. They lost ~3 month to find all set.

    And u also want to change class everytime? How do u imagine it? One day I crus next i will be vanq and on third day i will be wizard? Or i dont understand any?
    Honestly i dont see any reasons to change class. U choose class at the begining, u playing it coz u though it will be good for u, but abruptly want to play on another? So pay, why not? It gives money, the project is growing and developing. It is bad?
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