I like that the boss will disappear if it's enraged for too long. At least people don't waste hours of time. Though this way it's easy to to sabotage another raid from getting loot (keep luring boss until enrage then don't let it reset).

Another option would be to
- make the respawn timings a bit more random. E.g. don't do it in hourly intervals, make it something really random like 13hr 34min 13sec, etc. And have multiple timings
- make the bosses spawn much more randomly in terms of location - e.g 20 different spots across different maps
This is so people who find it get a chance to kill it without interference

PvP map

I vote for PvP map too!

Don't you guys miss the excitement of PvPing for something valuable!

Also remember that 2 raid bosses for 75 chain quest are in pvp maps. So theres no reason for Twin bears to stay in PvE, specially since they're becoming such a big problem lately.

And of course for the PvE players there will be events in which you can win these bosses too. =)

What about twins spawning like Ulric? Spawns in either PvP or PvE map.

Oh, I like it too.

The main issue with the above suggestions, with the exception of Fawns, is that it's not friendly to newer players/small guilds. Having the 2 Sasquatches spawn on either a pvp/pve map is more friendly a suggestion.

The Nereus one though, perhaps having a set number of spawn points is a better idea than random timers/enrage timer thing, the enrage timer doesn't actually solve the aggro war issue as both raids can just repeat the war for hours even if the thing respawns.

Think this would be a nice option since some people who can barely afford to do a raid, wont have a chance against big raids for this bosses. So probably this one would be a nice option. Also the timer for dissapear sounds good. Both options could be applied

I like this idea too. But when it spawns on PvE map we'll have the same problem all over again. Then it should really have a disappear timer in case GM's aren't online.

Move the bears to a PvP map since their HP were decreased and now killable by 6 people. (tried and tested). More fun. PvP

The purpose of my suggestion on Enrage limit is to cease the complaints player wise about how "ridiculous" it is to aggro war. Like it or not, the boss disappears if its kept up too long in that state. Its up to the raids if they want to meet halfway and let it reset and have first hit as fair game, but we know that wouldnt happen. So, get rid of it without GMs interfering. Less drama for us, Less drama for GMs, Less drama for Sedy and Gala. Win-Win situation, unless you actually like 8 hour aggro wars? =) Im sure all our templars can work in shifts every tarot they have.

Second, you say its difficult for newbies or small guilds? Its always like that, and I doubt small guilds can even squeeze in especially when two are already fighting on it in one spot. Bosses are not meant to be easy. After all--when I was a newbie and I needed LM. I had to pvp war with Dreadlock, Xea, Gible, Suki even and 10001 more painful main Pandora people to get what I wanted. And does LM spawn at a PvE map? No.

But we can ask for it to be spawned by a GM as a prize now.

Are GM events hard? Not really. If im not mistaken, recently--newbies are the ones who are winning Hide and Seeks. And based on experience, when I was not even part of a so called- top guild, we won Ulric and Livid via GM events, cause we simply sucked PVP wise. And guess what? No one can interfere with a prize boss spawn. Win-Win again. =)

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In my honest opinion, it is not hard to have both my suggestion, for the sake of removed aggro wars---as well as a mixture of Fawn's and Fae's (spunny). Have the bosses spawn in both PvE and PvP maps by chance. Have them spawn at more points or maps than currently so anybody can check and be surprised to where it is. Plus if theres enrage mode issues, have it removed automatically when the timer runs out.

I suggest the PVP map only for Sakun and Tundro, because as tested, it can be done by a limited amount of people. Which is crucial for those things, since man power is usually an issue on both sides. Im sure the others will agree to this as well if it boils down to it.

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Moving on, PVP has always created life into the server. It is rather boring and unexciting to just wait and camp for bosses---wait till the last hit...Then watch Templars duke it out on the bosses and see who resets first. Its tiring. Templars Online much?

Compared to being on the edge, the thrill of dying or winning a war. Both sides feel successfully satisfied that they had something to do, compared to sitting around griping about "Aggro wars FTW!". Id rather go to a PVP map, feel the urge to see where the bosses are, if the other raid has hidden them, fight for it, maybe win, maybe lose. And in the end..

Win or Lose.

Everyone's happy with adrenaline.

*coughs* I dont mind, personally as I said, I felt the pain and awesomeness of gathering and killing all those PVP bosses >_>
Idk Sedy, if it fails, tough luck. Lol maybe after 5 hours? HAHAHAH I swear to gahd we are all stubborn people!

But idk, I'd go for any option as long as something addresses this really >.> Status quo sucks.

Thanks!

The other option is changing the effects of the boss enrage effect again. Insta-death for anyone nearby and immune to taunts and whatever else I can think of.

Really like this idea (would be awesome to see 20 nearby people just die, lol *evil*). Just one little problem tho, the respawn on spot option would need to be removed so people can't just get up right away and agro it all over again.

But some tankers have 100% abs so I'm not really sure how to kill everyone in a matter of seconds.

tbh... the bosses themselves aren't friendly to newer players/small guilds lol... Even if they were left alone to kill bears or nereus, could they?

maybe can use effect like crystalisk DS skill's. so even with absorb still can decress HP

exactly Nasuki

No I don't miss it. o.o

o3o move bears to PvP map. Haven't had some fun raid vs raid pk in a while. ♥

give enrage a 1m unblockable aoe damage / - 1m HP / sec

Natsuki*

*cough* 5 ppl haha

Hm this remind me - World boss mean PVE - so here we have heal , tank and rdps - we lose mele coz they and in that way cant survive near any of both boss .
SO normal boss to be on pk map , so the poor mele have their job to protect Raid , so all can work like team .
Raid full with RDPS - 1-2 mele , 2 healer . 1 tank ~~
I think this is the idea at all of iris . But since here every one build turned to PVP -
I lost , when here WW and Assasin can go Debuff , when they die form 1 hit . I feel noob beeing Vanq and using nimpi just to do somethig with poor debuff ~~
Just incous this i can agre Boss to be in pvp map ,

And in last - u can't respawn in same point at pvp map - have some idea ~~

!! ^ they're not saying smaller guilds/newer players can't kill the bears or nereus. it's just that they have to be properly equipped (which will take them pretty quite some time to prepare) to kill the two world bosses.

well coming from a templar who can absorb 100% Phy damage for up to 40 seconds including absorb pots and 160k + HP id suggest a bleed like payaso but make it like 70-100k a sec for 5 secongs, that is sure to kill everyone . which would work since some healers heal 20k + so 2-3 healers on 1 templar to hold the boss is easy to acheive. and i actually agree with ray, some PVP would be nice might liven up the server again like it used to