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Hy,
this is coming from a player, that played sage for some time already....and i took my time to post this, testing out skills/ wars/ dungeons n things.
I never liked to play Priest, so this is totally onesided-healer-thinking:
1) mp-circle
Basically this is shit.... if you put this circle and you get damaged....your mp goes down SO fast.
And we all know what this means~ healer without mp= dead
So i can basically only use the circle when im not in war to recover mp
2) Grounds
Since you changed back the recast time.... grounds 2 are exactly the same as grounds 1
This are basically 3 lost skillpoints for me. The efficiency is the same/ the recast is the same
Can you tell me why we have ground 2 please?
3) Grounds point 2
In Ci its useless to put grounds. Even if i put them on my party or me, the debuff still happens.
uhuuu-why?
4) Life font
Srysly? Q_Q This skill takes mp until your totally out of it. You can't even cancel it somehow.
As mentioned in point 1 already....no mp=dead
5) Life and Death
I wont use a skill that takes half my hp~ lol what?
not even skilled~ what does it help if enemy looses half of hp too if someone else from other party comes in suddenly:
Stun->hit-> stun= dead healer
If it even takes that long
6) Stuns
In this game are too many stuns now.
How do you expect us to heal if we get constantly stunned?
And so many different stuns, we cant even use a circle much bcz.... many skills have other debuffs
like using red circle~ but debuff is magic or whatever
7) Sage vs. Priest-Circle complains
I saw many priests comlain about the op-ness of circles.
Sure its good. If you CAN STAY IN IT. What mostly never is the case.... like if you want to heal, you need to follow your partymembers
or in some cases get pushed out of your circle.
8) Sage vs Priest-Buffs
Priest got 1 more Buff. They have colossal + earthen or pyre and earthen gives dmg-absorb for saints.
I know we have circles~ and atack too. But as mentioned at point 7 already~ try to stay inside a circle in wars.
It kinda like never works.
9) Classes in generall
....are messed up. Templar kinda unkillable, the classes arent like they were before~
Like for example everyone knew: Sw= debuffer
Mage= stunner
Lock= pusher
Idk, just some things coming to my mind. But with the new skills everyting got random~ like every class can stun now, etc....
I just have the feeling it's messed up.
10) ???
I am pretty sure I forgot something now xD If so, i just add later~
This was not intended to be QQ -> Just some serious thinking on the matter.
~
Linn
this is coming from a player, that played sage for some time already....and i took my time to post this, testing out skills/ wars/ dungeons n things.
I never liked to play Priest, so this is totally onesided-healer-thinking:
1) mp-circle
Basically this is shit.... if you put this circle and you get damaged....your mp goes down SO fast.
And we all know what this means~ healer without mp= dead
So i can basically only use the circle when im not in war to recover mp
2) Grounds
Since you changed back the recast time.... grounds 2 are exactly the same as grounds 1
This are basically 3 lost skillpoints for me. The efficiency is the same/ the recast is the same
Can you tell me why we have ground 2 please?
3) Grounds point 2
In Ci its useless to put grounds. Even if i put them on my party or me, the debuff still happens.
uhuuu-why?
4) Life font
Srysly? Q_Q This skill takes mp until your totally out of it. You can't even cancel it somehow.
As mentioned in point 1 already....no mp=dead
5) Life and Death
I wont use a skill that takes half my hp~ lol what?
not even skilled~ what does it help if enemy looses half of hp too if someone else from other party comes in suddenly:
Stun->hit-> stun= dead healer
If it even takes that long
6) Stuns
In this game are too many stuns now.
How do you expect us to heal if we get constantly stunned?
And so many different stuns, we cant even use a circle much bcz.... many skills have other debuffs
like using red circle~ but debuff is magic or whatever
7) Sage vs. Priest-Circle complains
I saw many priests comlain about the op-ness of circles.
Sure its good. If you CAN STAY IN IT. What mostly never is the case.... like if you want to heal, you need to follow your partymembers
or in some cases get pushed out of your circle.
8) Sage vs Priest-Buffs
Priest got 1 more Buff. They have colossal + earthen or pyre and earthen gives dmg-absorb for saints.
I know we have circles~ and atack too. But as mentioned at point 7 already~ try to stay inside a circle in wars.
It kinda like never works.
9) Classes in generall
....are messed up. Templar kinda unkillable, the classes arent like they were before~
Like for example everyone knew: Sw= debuffer
Mage= stunner
Lock= pusher
Idk, just some things coming to my mind. But with the new skills everyting got random~ like every class can stun now, etc....
I just have the feeling it's messed up.
10) ???
I am pretty sure I forgot something now xD If so, i just add later~
This was not intended to be QQ -> Just some serious thinking on the matter.
~
Linn
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iixvii: I have given a detailed opinion on the topic, yet you seem to have contributed nothing to the discussion - "troll-ish" comments aside, ofc. (This alone gives me enough reasoning to simply ignore you. Heh, like I care.)
I do not "run away" from the topic. Your comment asking if I am scared is pretty much nonsensical: why'd I ever be scared of people's opinion of prophets? Hell, I don't even play one.
If you wonder why am I trying to turn down the flame...I don't even know what to say here. Common sense and forum rules - ever heard of those? I strongly encourage you to look up both.
And yes, thanks, Kawaii - provoking me is largely a waste of rage and effort.
In fact, now that I've detailedly explained why your opinion is invalid (and negligible), I proceed to ignore you. Contribute something to the main topic, then we'll talk.
Good day sir -
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After reading iixvii's reply, it looks like he has no right to tell others use better english. Let's see...no punctuation, can't capitalize I's, and I can only assume you meant to spell your*. So I recommend going back to school before you start badmouthing others for something you can't even do yourself. -
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Technically if you are worried about stuns and pushes and not healing in time due to an entourage of melee attackers the solution is simple. Gold tarot, grace, 100% phys pot, and use the light healing circle along with blue circle. That immediately nulifies both if you're an HP maniac and have 0 casting speed. Mp circle isnt bad in PvP just depends on the size. wars not great if 8+ more people. could also use life Front if the MP consumption gets too crazy and yes ik LF takes mp to keep up but it doubles the MP recovery + the useage of pots.Prophets are Wisdom sluts, so they have a higher mp recovery rate i'll admit. I have one of my own so im speaking from experience a little.
This is just my opinion and if you want to tell me im wrong then tell me in private message.
Thanks
~Kaiyumie/Xertini~ -
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Ok,
this is absoutely getting outa hand.
I wanted a serious discusion here. Maybe i started/ worded it wrong....but thats just beeing me. So thanks to Citadel for explaining the points even better, than i could.
I never said nor wanted Prophets to get skills, that make them super-op. I never said or whined about Prophets beeing too weak.
All i wanted was for some skills, that are simply ...lets call it weird...(to not offend someone again,) to be looked at again.
I can play my class just fine. But what is wrong about pointing out some things, i think need to be looked at or at the very least getting talked about again?
Some things i read here now, are just so *faceplam* ...."yeah just step outa circle/use mp-pots" -> sure i can do this....Care to tell me then, why i should skill it/ Why it is even in my skilltree?
@ Sedy.... I never said the work you did was shit or sthg....i apreciate, that new things are getting added and all....if not, i wouldnt still be here
As I said already, maybe i started this topic with less than ideal wording (ask my friends, it's just like i am)......im sorry if it offended you.
Nevertheless, i stay true to my words....
Linn~ -
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Fist all know PureEviI english is so poor , even GM think i RAGE xD
second , English is not my first lang. and will never be so i dun care , if u answer , so u get something of that ,what i spend !
Third . u alone was in my party for DI and li and just u cant change this , - im form pando xD
And u must care about ur guildmate and ally , coz u ppl so pro ,but is easy 4 guild to go vs pando , right ?
or ohh maybe u not know PEGSASUS is all old Pandora player xD well except some , but normal !
Now you can talk what ya want , becouse , 50% of this what u say , u not even know !
For others 50% u just to noob to get xD
Be happy you have good guild , with good comunity help xD
Coz u all is just so lazy to do what ever here , except to show all in forum , how mutch u know for iris .
Just sad . all other not have brain , it's only you .
Some time , ppl need STFU alone , without some one to tell them ^^ -
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1) mp-circle
Basically this is shit.... if you put this circle and you get damaged....your mp goes down SO fast.
And we all know what this means~ healer without mp= dead
So i can basically only use the circle when im not in war to recover mp
Be thankful your MP circle has MP regen too. You just need to stay inside the circle. :3
So don't call it "shit"
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-sigh-
Citadel, this isn't really worth the time. [I guess I have to deviate off-topic again...]
When "the likes of Aqua" go as far as to enter a state of supreme rage (which is identifiable by excessive smilies' usage, for example), there's not much you can do anymore - they don't really listen to you anymore, mindlessly turning your arguments against you and (usually) resorting to trash-talking.
Seems Aqua got smarter (the better for him) and doesn't openly trash talk anyone, but he'd still been known for this a long time before.
Oh, and don't forget the smilies.
(and well, it IS funny - probably this comment will provoke someone as well - but I do not do that purposely anymore for the sake of neutrality and the thread in question's readability: look at how you've managed to flood it in a pretty short time span)
Well, if any of you have anything to tell me, do it in PM, you've flooded the topic enough already.
Just...calm down, everyone. Really. No point in arguing further. -
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1. Usually is different from always
2. I've never been a part of Pandora and never will
3. You nor anyone of your guildies helped me when i started.
4. I didnt say that I'm the best pk-er. I'm not and never will be.
5. I have a life outside of iris. Mind you, i have a girlfriend and I'm currently enrolled in a college in the program of Business Administration Majoring in Accounting.
6. Learn Time Management.
7. I dont care if you're 76. I'm 85 go level and we'll see.
8. I am not a kid, I'm a baby.
9. I dont care if you've killed my guildies, fact remains that i didnt die on you.
10. It's really hard to decipher what you want to say. English please. *proper english. -
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wow i just can laugh on this word , Pando always losers ? just WOW . u may forgot Aqua , how may time pando do ur dung and quest ? idk ,what the fck ahahahahahaha .
Why u dude's forgot where u was before , and now u so so ...
just a few ppl make u all crazy from pando , u not need and more xD
Even when iback at 76 lvl got 4 kils to ur Ally xD
Idk how u come up here and said im the best PK-r xD
Go hide some where ,bcuz 76 lvl smack ur ally 4 time and die just 2 ,
Im rly sorry , this post not to be even here . but u ppl is so funy . kids ! -
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I'm in Remi? Sorry but you're mistaken, I'v been in NG for months now, and it's called alliance if you dont know that. OH! Im sure you do know that! Cause Tix's and Pegasus's members are in Pandora now. So dont brag about 1 guild vs 3 or 4 of us. Cause from the start you are 3 guilds in Pandora c: Pity you have to say that just cause you peeps usually lose.
And Uhm was i being defensive? oh you :"> I'm not :3 I just wanna let you know that unlike some of your members, my K-D records and CP was attained without killing any alts c:
Aww buhbyee entertainment c:
And it's actually Reminiscence :x so I dont know if there's any Reminscent guild o.O -
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I'm entertainment! Wow that's awesome
Oh I know you're in Reminiscent, again with misreading there =) I said your guild had to bring NG and Lyrics members to fight us, not that your guild is Lyrics. I forgot Kaiser was there as well from EBT but his SB is in Reminiscent so doesn't count. I also never said it gives you 4, I said it gives ME 4 so I guess you misread that part too. Your records? LOL why would I ask for them? Alls I want to do is put you on the defensive and make you explain yourself which I succeeded in doing again =)
As for rankings, that bit made me giggle a bit.
Anyways, I'll leave you folks alone for now, I achieved what I set out to do =) -
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Cause you're an entertainment :3 You guys QQ when you're outnumbered and you guys brag when we are outnumbered cool story bro. It's actually Remi not Lyrics. :x Naw it doesnt give me 4. It's all 0 0 0 0 :c You can even ask Admins to see my records for PK. If there's any dent of lowbie kills when i reached 75-85 then I'll give you my CP so you can experience to be in rankings c: OMG im too kind -
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I'm touched, even though I should be ignored you are still responding to me, how gracious you are =)
You're right, it is sad that we can't win against you when your guild brings NG members and Lyrics members to fight us and outnumber us, we must be REALLY worth the effort =) pity you folks aren't, gaining 4cp per kill is kinda lame seeing as you lot are all pro players with your high kill counts in the pk maps, wonder how many lowbies fed your cp totals =)
And yea, sad life but it could be worse, I could be you =) -
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I'm bringing it up again? I don't recall bringing it up before.
I'm surprised you even saw what was happening, you ran away as soon as you ported into CS =) It's also good to know you join every level 85 battlefield, you must be a very dedicated player, a testament to your guild =)
@ Alpha - Ohhhhhhhh snap!!!!!!!!! I love that 'who are you' card =) I was wondering when it would come out =) -
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You have to admit Fist, it is rather funny to provoke the likes of Aqua and rest of his kin reading their replies and attempts at provocation is highly amusing, just a shame Vulcan isn't posting at the moment as his infallible and flawless logic made for fantastic reading. I have to admit though, it is rather easy to provoke them all, it's like taking candy from a baby, a mentally handicapped baby. -
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Tbh it's harder to glitch now than before, Idk why. you can ask Ray for that. though he can still glitch hardcore. I hardly glitch now even in pvp so dont impose any glitches that i use to gain an upper-hand in pvp, I dont even need it to kill you. And in addition. I am not a totempole to stand around during wars. I have instant mount to use. Try to buy one?
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