I've attached the description below, this skill seems kinda strong with just this descriptions in a glance. But upon some testing, we've found out that it NEVER MISSES. In the tests we've tried, we got Magic evasion up to 400%+ (with Beastial Instincts).
And some Vanquishers I've talked to have confirmed this. This never miss "hidden feature" of this skill makes it pretty OP/imbalanced imo. What are your thoughts on this?
Summary:
No cooldown within the 7 seconds it can be used
Instant cast
ITD 50% magic def
50% bonus magic dmg
Dash-running skill with 12.0m range
Hidden feature (not in descriptions): NEVER MISSES
replied on Wednesday, August 14 2013, 07:04 AM #Permalink
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its because its not fair to magic users who cant defend themselves. that's y us magic users has a reset skill to sort of balance things out giving us extra help.
replied on Saturday, August 10 2013, 10:12 PM #Permalink
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this skill u see actually fails alot.. and have so many ways to counter it,,.. u guys just have to learn how to counter it,, especially for mail users if u play ur cards right, countering that skills is easy as abc.. and about the 12m range,, i wudnt really say it is 12m cause if u are not in range for meelee skills skills u can be sure this skill has 90% chance of failing and not hitting u at all
replied on Friday, August 09 2013, 09:20 PM #Permalink
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Templar itd got nerf + absorb ish 90% now hahaha so sad for templar cuz can't reach 100% absorb no matter what they doing
and yet templar can't spam shield woot woot so awesome
replied on Friday, August 09 2013, 03:38 AM #Permalink
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nah Dont whine Fae. Its logical for them for a Berserker who train only physically to be having a non miss ITD vs magical class who have been learning magic all their life to miss on mail class
replied on Thursday, August 08 2013, 04:32 PM #Permalink
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While I understand that it is frustrating to always miss on mail-users, what i want to comment on is not related to hit-chance.
This skill can be used on everyone, not just mail users.
So Vanqs, now have Phy ITDs (that really hurt btw) and a magical ITD that can be spammed. So, once you are targeted by a Vanq who is sufficiently built, it's pretty much 99% chance of dying once you add in their Duel/stuns/silences.
It feels kinda like... Sorc/Wiz with a phy ITD that lasts for 7 sec~
Is this intended? That one class can kill any other class? Even abs pots are of no use, because they can simply use the other type of ITD?
replied on Monday, August 05 2013, 01:44 PM #Permalink
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I still don't get why this thread is ongoing. It's a unique skill that the Vanquisher has, it isn't game destroying and doesn't turn the class into a godly, unkillable monster.
Heres an idea for you all, why doesn't Sedy give ALL the classes ALL the same skills? Maybe then you lot can stop your whining about OP skills, although you'll probably complain that all the stuff is the same and boring or people are hacking which is why they are better etc etc etc
replied on Monday, August 05 2013, 01:35 PM #Permalink
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Hmmm, the food buffs gives more power attached to everyone's favor. I suggest to remove it while in BF matches? An NPC food buffs is enough. Or atleast make the injector available on NPC with (15 secs CD) so that everyone's "ultimate" can be countered. QQ's might lessen. Give all an easy life. -___-'
replied on Sunday, August 04 2013, 03:40 PM #Permalink
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i don't know i only play sniper but as for templar i don't think they need and ultimate they do have the regen kinda like a free heal lol and i think they get shield layer as well i think im not too familiar with templars i could tell you sniper since is what i play and its pretty obvious there got none lol
replied on Thursday, August 01 2013, 06:31 PM #Permalink
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There is a card that can counter Vanquisher's Celestial Slaughter, if you know which one is it. someone just said, * Classes have different ways to counter each other* and a lot of tran cards can help you too, right?
replied on Thursday, August 01 2013, 04:45 PM #Permalink
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lol i somewhat agreed but im a mail user my self and im not OMG CAN"T REACH GOD MODE so yeah beside you do got a point about each class has it counter i do agreed with citadel its fine as it is. Like i said before my class don't got ultimate skill and im not complaining about it lol
replied on Thursday, August 01 2013, 02:16 PM #Permalink
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All I'm seeing is OMG MAIL USER CAN'T REACH GOD MODE COZ OF THIS SKILL PLEASE REMOVE IT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. I see noone qqs but mail users. Classes have different ways to counter each other you just have to deal with it.
replied on Thursday, August 01 2013, 12:12 PM #Permalink
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Why not just leave it as is? How many Vanqs are there? How can this be such a problem if it's not an overpopulated class with ubermegasuperduper damage? I think it's fine as it is for now. At the absolute most the 1s 'cd' period before each use would be appropriate but certainly nothing more.
replied on Thursday, August 01 2013, 08:43 AM #Permalink
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it would be so messed up if we'll evade a magical attack with physical eva.. and what about the defense? will it be defended by physical defense too? if that will be the case, what's the point of categorizing it as a magical attack?
replied on Thursday, August 01 2013, 04:13 AM #Permalink
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in a test that we did last night, our vanq was able to land 5 of those within the 7 seconds duration of that skill. imagine being hit 5 times consecutively of 50% magic ITD, and even if i run away, it's a 12m dash skill.
replied on Thursday, August 01 2013, 03:55 AM #Permalink
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The perfect hit on Celestial Slaughter is what makes the skill SUPER OP. Why not instead of perfect hits, can the celestial be dependent on the physical hit the user has?
And yeah, adding more +hit buff will definitely overpower the job.
replied on Wednesday, July 31 2013, 04:16 PM #Permalink
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what you guys mean by trap is useless u guys can sleep and trap them if im correct its depend how you use it and other skill should have affect too support this right ? at least you guys got ultimate skill my class on the other hand don't lol and im not complaning about it XD