This isn't really helpful, at least explain why you think this?

I Waste More Money Enchanting my item this way, Cause If you Fail Its AutoMatic Downgrade~ so to me its like im wasting 2 times the ammount of money to Enchant to +10, I went to +7, then Failed 3 Times In A Row, i cant go past +8 XD. I Prefer if you atleast put back in the Item Fail but no Downgrade~

Because since you erased item break mechanism from system which we were able to get protected with protection scrolls. only left are success or revert back. And since success rate decreased , with 10m i couldnt even be able to make +7 which i was able to make +10 before with that much.

I totally understand your point guys however. The major reason for having this system is to have a bit more challenging upgrade. Meaning +10 gears is a symbol of power and status. Secondly this system is really good for the economy. Not alot of players are able to farm trophies and not all players have the patience to farm gold. So a mutual symbiosis can be made by the diff types of players in our no scrubs community. I hope you understand.



Cheers.

I haven't played the new client yet (download issues) but is using the red protect card still available?? or removed as well??

Coz looking @ this i'm going to guess upgrading an armor exspecially using tempering cards is going to be a major bitch.....at least change the system that if it fails it doesn't degrade always.....like b4 + it can never break.....

Its just a little bit hard Joe. not totally QQ type hard.

Just keeping the economy in check.

I totally understand your point guys however. The major reason for having this system is to have a bit more challenging upgrade. Meaning +10 gears is a symbol of power and status. Secondly this system is really good for the economy. Not alot of players are able to farm trophies and not all players have the patience to farm gold. So a mutual symbiosis can be made by the diff types of players in our no scrubs community. I hope you understand.



Cheers.

Personally I like the current method that is now in place. It means things like the Element Stones which now are x2 easier to get get some value to them and the Incant cards that are found will also sell well. And I do agree that getting a +10 on a gear should be something that isn't easily given to someone. It's a sign of dedication with a hint of some luck.

I totally understand your point guys however. The major reason for having this system is to have a bit more challenging upgrade. Meaning +10 gears is a symbol of power and status. Secondly this system is really good for the economy. Not alot of players are able to farm trophies and not all players have the patience to farm gold. So a mutual symbiosis can be made by the diff types of players in our no scrubs community. I hope you understand.



Cheers.

Personally I like the current method that is now in place. It means things like the Element Stones which now are x2 easier to get get some value to them and the Incant cards that are found will also sell well. And I do agree that getting a +10 on a gear should be something that isn't easily given to someone. It's a sign of dedication with a hint of some luck.

lol, your funny dude. do you know how much success rate in doing a +10? hope you understand the situation. or have you ever tried to make a +10? coz if you have, maybe you know that its impossible to make +10 if thats the case. I haven't login in the game coz of download issue, but for sure, if what this people are saying is true then all I can say is that +10 is impossible thing.

I totally understand your point guys however. The major reason for having this system is to have a bit more challenging upgrade. Meaning +10 gears is a symbol of power and status. Secondly this system is really good for the economy. Not alot of players are able to farm trophies and not all players have the patience to farm gold. So a mutual symbiosis can be made by the diff types of players in our no scrubs community. I hope you understand.



Cheers.

Personally I like the current method that is now in place. It means things like the Element Stones which now are x2 easier to get get some value to them and the Incant cards that are found will also sell well. And I do agree that getting a +10 on a gear should be something that isn't easily given to someone. It's a sign of dedication with a hint of some luck.

lol, your funny dude. do you know how much success rate in doing a +10? hope you understand the situation. or have you ever tried to make a +10? coz if you have, maybe you know that its impossible to make +10 if thats the case. I haven't login in the game coz of download issue, but for sure, if what this people are saying is true then all I can say is that +10 is impossible thing.

Considering I have played games where you have a 2% chance to go from a +9 to +10 and if it fails there is no fallback. Once you fail it breaks and you just lost an item that drops off a boss that spawns every 4hrs and has a 1% drop rate.

It's called a challenge and having the elite gear is something earned by hard work and some luck. Everything given to you isn't much fun. Having a +10 item should be extremely rare.

I'm sorry I like a challenge and don't need to be hand fed like a child.

Considering I have played games where you have a 2% chance to go from a +9 to +10 and if it fails there is no fallback. Once you fail it breaks and you just lost an item that drops off a boss that spawns every 4hrs and has a 1% drop rate.

It's called a challenge and having the elite gear is something earned by hard work and some luck. Everything given to you isn't much fun. Having a +10 item should be extremely rare.

I'm sorry I like a challenge and don't need to be hand fed like a child.

I agree with that too

ok, let see with that challenge your talking

Considering I have played games where you have a 2% chance to go from a +9 to +10 and if it fails there is no fallback. Once you fail it breaks and you just lost an item that drops off a boss that spawns every 4hrs and has a 1% drop rate.

I agree with that too

i should had quoted only this dont care for the rest

Sucess Rates are as follows:

+1 100%
+2 95%
+3 85%
+4 75%
+5 65%
+6 50%
+7 50%
+8 40$
+9 20%
+10 10%

This is for both weapons and armor and I think it's reasonable. Look how cheap the advanced encant cards are on the vendor, look how often they now drop from killing monsters.

It was way to easy to get +10 before, you all know that by all the spam of people hitting +10. +10 should be a challenge to get.

I'll look into changing the mechanic so they don't drop back a level so easily but the protect cards will not be coming back any time soon since they do not work for gear above level 60. So unless I find a way to make them work sometime soon they are gone.

if we have the +10% success rate event from time to time, i guess its gonna be fair!

A little less degrading would be awesome as well- lets see whats possible

You know what guys,if you are saying you love challenges then how about other players in game? you don't care about them,some of them are newb and lowbie?..i mean it's such a big bullsh*t stop being selfish man "Challenge" is everywhere in-game if you are really looking for it..and as for economy,do you think it's just that easy to earned 10m+ gold just to upgrade your gears without an assurances of maxing it grade..this server is far from retail level guys deal with it!?..if in retail +10 is showing your "Pride" or "Status"..there is too many things to do in here instead of making your gears +10 just like in retail which items is limited!?..Sometime i also seeing some lowbies maxing there green set just to survive in-game and i felt a little pity to them cuz they cant even afford to buy unique..so i really suggest is bring back the old enhancing system and about the gear level,u can nerfed its level right? just like what you did in Lv.65 gears before..sedy this server is already good and awesome you can see that in every voting site so please im begging you bring back the old enhancing system..

Actually before when enhancing to +10, I often failed like 15times, and ever since I started playing Iris, It didn't happen that when I'm upgrading to +10 I didn't fail, even in this server. I wonder if theirs a single person manage to do it.

but I understand the situation though, thats why you make the 65 gears to lvl 60 before because of this reason, and also other problem need to be fix first rather than this.

Admin said:

I'll look into changing the mechanic so they don't drop back a level so easily but the protect cards will not be coming back any time soon since they do not work for gear above level 60. So unless I find a way to make them work sometime soon they are gone.

There are no Protection cards in the game that Protect your gear above level 60, that's a fact. The retail server doesn't have any.
In other games such as Flyff, you can get your items up to +6 and be happy, and then buy Scrolls with real money to get them above, and still have a chance to fail.

This isn't the admin doing it, it's because there is NO actual CARD to do it ABOVE level 60.
He is doing us all a favour by making the destruction chance to zero, please understand this.
There's noone here being selfish or anything, its just what we can do with it as it is now.

As he said above, if he can CODE a PROT card for you people, he will. On that you can trust me, he will.

Are the rates the same between high quality cards and green ones?

^First useful post.

@magnus

the high class adds 4% unless admin changed it.


@topic

having this system helps alot of people lets not just think about "its hard upgrading qq" stuff. there are alot of factors in this change. just stick a little while an you will see.



Cheers.

I made some changes to the rates. If you get a fail, it's only 5% chance that the fail will step you back a level. In my tests I used around 15-20 blue cards to +10 an epic level 65 armor or weapon, and in total 2 step backs.

It will be in the patcher later today.

now thats too easy almost ^^ but i m not complainin...

Way to easy indeed. I suggest lowering the chances by alot. The only thing that was screwing up the enchant system before was the downgrade chance.

+1, its TOO EASY! :P

(rofl)

Having thing's given and spoon fed to you will only make things boring. Bring on the challenge, who cares if +10 is harder to get because of this roll back. To get +10 will show some luck/dedication. Something that makes a game worth playing. Why do something if its too easy? Enjoy the game for the challenges in my opinion and not for something you can do in your sleep.

Hear hear.

how about lowering success rate for normal incant cards on +9 and +10, and high class incants remain. so high class incants would actually worth something.

Yeah I remember I was trying to plus my staff the day the patch came out. I got it to +2 and then ti failed and went back to +1 this happened about 3 times v.v I only managed to get it to +7 over 8mil gold.